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    Quote Originally Posted by Robeye View Post
    Much as I love Yuna, I gotta say that I personally prefer the white boot look as a general rule.

    But at a certain point in a career, particularly after a certain amount of success, I'm thinking it becomes more about physical familiarity and psychological comfort than anything else.
    As for me, I could go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YunaBliss View Post
    No one does 3-3 better than Yuna, but IMO, that is not her greatest attribute. As many said before, what makes Yuna truly special is her innate musicality.
    Without the 3-3, Yu Na would be on a par, at best, with her closest rivals. I don't see her exhibitions, without her 3-3, as that special. Her 3-3 is the best, and that, with her amazing consistency in doing the difficult combo, is what really sets her apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinspread View Post
    They look dressed for an insect killer commercial.
    Based on the look, I think that "Killer Bees" would suit them much better. Also sounds more ferocious.

    The West Coast has a lot of odd mascots, I've found. Pomona College are the "Sage Hens". I mean, how is this supposed to strike terror in opponents?

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    Hey, I once heard of a university whose color was violet, so its basketball team was called The Violets. Could I have dreamed that? *goes to look* Yes, it's NYU, and by Jove, all their sports teams are nicknamed Violets. This is the kind of thing I'd expect of, say, Vassar or Bryn Mawr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenaj View Post
    Without the 3-3, Yu Na would be on a par, at best, with her closest rivals. I don't see her exhibitions, without her 3-3, as that special. Her 3-3 is the best, and that, with her amazing consistency in doing the difficult combo, is what really sets her apart.
    Agree that her 3lz-3t is special. So was her 3F-3t, as well as her 2A-3t.

    Disagree on the rest. IMHO, Yuna is not only one of the most musically gifted skaters I've ever seen, but one whose style of movement is uniquely and immediately recognizable as her own. Jeff Buttle calls her "hypnotic".

    I'm not the only one that says so. Just about every major expert commentator I know says something along those lines. Great minds, and all that...

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    I agree with jenaj, and have said several times in the past that her 3x3 consistency is her strongest point.
    I wonder how people can see her as having "inate musicality" I think she works really hard, and her teams have picked the right vehicles for her all along.
    Out of her last 6 or 7 LP, only one showed her musicality well. The rest are well practiced and well rehearsed.

    Her line isn't as good as a few others.
    Her spirals, steps aren't as good as a few others.

    As a CoP skater, where everything add up, her consistency and 3x3 will get her the win.
    As a skater, I don't think she's as good as other top tier skaters who I go back and rewatch from time to time.

    She's an A skater, and she stays in the A- to A range almost all the time. And she showed her perfect routines a few times already.
    Someone else, a B+ A- skater, can go all the way to A+ at their max potential. They haven't yet, but I believe their best are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robeye View Post
    The West Coast has a lot of odd mascots, I've found. Pomona College are the "Sage Hens". I mean, how is this supposed to strike terror in opponents?
    The best West Coast mascot is the Evergreen University geoducks (pronounced gooey-ducks). This is what they look like.

    http://www.antiquark.com/img/geoduck_clam_2.jpg

    Tonichelle's college, the University of Alaska Anchorage, is the sea wolves. This is an Inuit mythological sea serpent sort of thing, perhaps originating from some sort of whale. Here is a Raven-Seawolf totem pole.

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    The Detroit Tigers' triple A team is the Toledo Mud Hens.

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    She doesn't do the 3F-3t anymore so I can't judge her on that. Lots of skaters do the 2A-3T. What sets her apart is her 3L-3T. The rest is, of course, subjective. To me, aside from her admittedly superior (and consistent) 3-3's, she is not that much better than her closest competitors and in some respects is not as good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robeye View Post
    Agree that her 3lz-3t is special. So was her 3F-3t, as well as her 2A-3t.

    Disagree on the rest. IMHO, Yuna is not only one of the most musically gifted skaters I've ever seen, but one whose style of movement is uniquely and immediately recognizable as her own. Jeff Buttle calls her "hypnotizing".

    I'm not the only one that says so. Just about every major expert commentator I know says something along those lines. Great minds, and all that...

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    Her strongest point is that she has no weaknesses. Some of her skills are better than others, but none are mediocre or bad.

    Her other strongest point is that she is wildly consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    The best West Coast mascot is the Evergreen University geoducks (pronounced gooey-ducks). This is what they look like.

    http://www.antiquark.com/img/geoduck_clam_2.jpg
    What the heck? (Not sure I would put that on my grill . Sorry, didn't mean to get off on the wrong foot, ha ha. OK, I'll clam up now)


    Tonichelle's college, the University of Alaska Anchorage, is the sea wolves. This is an Inuit mythological sea serpent sort of thing, perhaps originating from some sort of whale. Here is a Raven-Seawolf totem pole.

    http://tresham.com/sites/default/fil...s%20-%2010.jpg
    Now that is what I call a cool mascot

    The Detroit Tigers' triple A team is the Toledo Mud Hens.
    Weren't they featured in "Bull Durham"?

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    Easily her jumping ability and massive speed and incredibly easy flow over the ice. I would put her as 1 of the top 3 jumpers of all time along with Ito and Harding. I would put her as the best triple-triple jumper ever though, nobody could ever seemingly do every jump into a triple with huge speed and flow in and out with the ease and perfection she can. I would also call her probably the best overall toe jumper (lutz, flip, and toe loop) ever.

    She is one of the fastest skaters ever and seems to fly over the ice, but unlike Kostner also does it with complete ease and seems to flow with no apparent effort out there while still flying. It seems to give her an amazing fluidity and easy of movement.

    After that I would say her incredible musical interpretation. Both her face and body movements completely convey whatever selection of music she is skating to, and she can do it to any type of music. She truly immerses herself into her music and program, and lives the choreography and music out for all to see.

    Those are her biggest strengths of all. Beyond that I would agree with what someone else said, her lack of weaknesses. There are some things she could be better in, but there is nothing she is truly weak in. There probably isnt anything you could point to at a given time and say more than half of the Worlds top 10 is better than her at, let alone being a true weakness. That in itself is a huge strength and makes her incredibly hard to beat.


    Along with all I said her consistency. She isnt always perfect, someone on another forum pointed out she has only 4 or 5 clean competitions ever. However she is very good at limiting her mistakes. She is the only skater in the 100+ year history of the sport I believe who has never failed to medal in a Senior competition. Not even once her whole career has she competed Senior and not gone away with atleast a bronze in any event, big or small. Over an almost 7 year span now she has only lost to 3 skaters- Mao Asada, Carolina Kostner, and Miki Ando. A fellow legend, a 5 time World medalist, and a 2 time World Champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Easily her jumping ability and massive speed and incredibly easy flow over the ice. I would put her as 1 of the top 3 jumpers of all time along with Ito and Harding. I would put her as the best triple-triple jumper ever though, nobody could ever seemingly do every jump into a triple with huge speed and flow in and out with the ease and perfection she can. I would also call her probably the best overall toe jumper (lutz, flip, and toe loop) ever.

    She is one of the fastest skaters ever and seems to fly over the ice, but unlike Kostner also does it with complete ease and seems to flow with no apparent effort out there while still flying. It seems to give her an amazing fluidity and easy of movement.

    After that I would say her incredible musical interpretation. Both her face and body movements completely convey whatever selection of music she is skating to, and she can do it to any type of music. She truly immerses herself into her music and program, and lives the choreography and music out for all to see.

    Those are her biggest strengths of all. Beyond that I would agree with what someone else said, her lack of weaknesses. There are some things she could be better in, but there is nothing she is truly weak in. There probably isnt anything you could point to at a given time and say more than half of the Worlds top 10 is better than her at, let alone being a true weakness. That in itself is a huge strength and makes her incredibly hard to beat.


    Along with all I said her consistency. She isnt always perfect, someone on another forum pointed out she has only 4 or 5 clean competitions ever. However she is very good at limiting her mistakes. She is the only skater in the 100+ year history of the sport I believe who has never failed to medal in a Senior competition. Not even once her whole career has she competed Senior and not gone away with atleast a bronze in any event, big or small. Over an almost 7 year span now she has only lost to 3 skaters- Mao Asada, Carolina Kostner, and Miki Ando. A fellow legend, a 5 time World medalist, and a 2 time World Champion.
    I can't agree more!
    And a small correction: It's not just Senior competitions. All through Novice, Junior and Senior competitions ever since she entered the international stage.

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    Thanks. I did not add Juniors or beyond since I did not know if she had ever missed the podium. I wonder if she never missed a podium at any competition at any level since her first competition of any kind at say 5 or 7 years old. It wouldnt surprise me at all if she still had never even then.

    When Yu Na Kim is in any competition you might as well ask "who will win the other 2 medals". Since it is always a guarantee 1 of the medals will be Kim's, even if occasionally not gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
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    After that I would say her incredible musical interpretation. Both her face and body movements completely convey whatever selection of music she is skating to, and she can do it to any type of music. She truly immerses herself into her music and program, and lives the choreography and music out for all to see.
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    I think this is a major strength of hers that is under-appreciated, because some of her programs (especially her exhibitions) have not exactly been designed to showcase her musicality. While Michelle skated to "Fields of Gold" and "East of Eden", David Wilson has been more inclined to give her uptempo dance routines. She worked once with Bezic and that was to Rihanna's "Please Don't Stop the Music". I'm not the biggest fan of dance pop for figure skating routines.

    However, I think it's pretty evident, especially when watching her programs from her younger years, what her strengths are. For example, her 2005 JGPF free skate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQCDgX9T580 at 15 years old.

    You can easily see what came naturally to her versus what she had to work on to refine later in her career. You just have to watch Papa Can You Hear Me?, Tango de Roxanne and the Lark Ascending, and you can already see what at 15-16 years of age she already had in spades: top skating skills, huge jumps and triple-triples, and an amazing feel for the music.

    Just look at the way she moved her arms at 15 years old vs. any 15 year old junior today. She wasn't flapping her arms attempting to take off even though she was playing a lark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Thanks. I did not add Juniors or beyond since I did not know if she had ever missed the podium. I wonder if she never missed a podium at any competition at any level since her first competition of any kind at say 5 or 7 years old. It wouldnt surprise me at all if she still had never even then.

    When Yu Na Kim is in any competition you might as well ask "who will win the other 2 medals". Since it is always a guarantee 1 of the medals will be Kim's, even if occasionally not gold.
    Here's an exclusive figure skating club with quite a few members. Care to guess what they all have in common?

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    Kim Chae-Hwa
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    Park So-Yeon
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