06-21-2013, 10:03 AM
Rejoicing in the land of Kwan
I know people hate on skaters when it comes to results but the skaters actually have NOTHING to do with the scores they receive. They don't score themselves. They go out and skate and the rest is up to the people on the panel. Due to reputation/politics certain skaters get a boost while others do not but, again, that's not something the skater has any control over. It's easy to point the finger at the skater but it's the judges and the judging system that is to blame...not the skater.
06-21-2013, 10:05 AM
At the rink. Again.
Actually, I prefer Gracie Gold to ALL other Senior ladies right now but am open to people pointing out her deficiencies (has issues with going squeaky clean, crappy choreo last season, looks stiff at times) and would absolutely have happy piddles if she did skate clean at the Olympics and would hope the judges would too and give her gigantic scores. Of the three top ladies who would have to "give it away" to not be on the podium, I do like Kostner the best right now from her 2011 and 2012 season programs where she has definitely become Lori N's muse. I thought her Bolero program was mesmerizing. I respect Kim's and Asada's skating both and Kim was clearly the deserved winner. As I said, it wouldn't have mattered if she won by 1, 5, 22, or 50 points, she was the clear winner. Period.
Originally Posted by cooper
06-21-2013, 10:15 AM
I would just like to say that I agree with this wholeheartedly. It is ridiculous how obtuse this thread has become, and resorting to blaming the skaters themselves and bashing each other- I'm relieved that this is nothing but an online forum. Some people on here make football hooligans look like Virgin Marys. Figure Skating is a subjective sport, and the fault (if there ever is one...oh hang on, wait. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WRONG) lies with the judges and everybody else behind the scenes.
Originally Posted by ForeverFish
What good does it do slandering skaters themselves? Does it actually make some of you -bots, -ubers, and whatnot feel better about yourselves vilifying these athletes who as far as I'm concerned, couldn't care less about debates like these because they are most probably working hard to give their best performances so that people like us, who can come off worse than the ISU judges would feel satisfied? It is issues like these that drive people away from any sport because frankly, it is a big turn off.
Now, off of my high horse, can we all please just go back to the original, hypothetical question? I could not emphasise that HYPOTHETICAL bit any more than most people have.
IMO, it would be an Asada, Kim, Kostner podium- which a close fight for gold for the first two. Asada winning gold because of her fantastical TES and Kim a close silver because of her genius PCS. Kostner shouldn't be far off, but I have a feeling that much like Vancouver, somehow, it'll turn into another Kim and Asada whatever.
Are there any moderators on this forum AT ALL? I have read far too many posts that wouldn't be tolerated anywhere else. To those who are guilty, and you know who you are, STOP RUINING THE FUN OF THE ******* SPORT.
06-21-2013, 10:34 AM
Me not gonna answer? Come on. You don't believe in it yourself.
Originally Posted by cooper
Oh no, sweetheart. That is where you are entirely wrong. Trolling is your speed. You talk about the real score and the real protocols at Worlds regarding Yuna but you speak about the hypothetcal Mao's layout that wasn't there at all. Of course you can click on the link http://www.isuresults.com/results/wc..._FS_Scores.pdf and see the layout. Yet, you type the list of jumps that is not on the protocol and then you "tailor" it up to the real protocol's score. That's dumb cheat as type of trolling from Yuna fans, which I got used to. And surely you know how to use math or at least the calculator. Or maybe not indeed. Not that I am here for the charity of basic schooling. But why not have a mercy on your hopeless soul as someone else put it .
Originally Posted by bara1968
The difference between Yuna's score and Mao's score in FS is 13.97. So, let's follow your "advice" and start from 134.37 with 4 mistakes. Imagine that those 4 mistakes never happened and add +1 GOE for each jump. Total difference to add to her TES is 10.19 (3A: 9.50, difference to add: 3.14; 3F: 6.0, difference to add 3.50; 3Z: 6.7, difference to add 1.4; 3F+2Lo+2Lo=5.3+1.8+1.8=8.9*1.1=9.79+1.3 GOE=11.09, difference to add: 2.15). She still wouldn't have been able to reach Yuna's inflated score even if she hadn't made those mistakes.
I am sure OP won't mind at all if you answer my question here. Why do you need a special thread for that? Unless you have nothing to say.
Originally Posted by Melon
06-21-2013, 10:45 AM
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