I hope Liza can put this back in her arsenal in the future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdkDLBmBFBU
Originally Posted by sky_fly20
I think it's very unforunate to have had something of such seemingly good quality and never to have done it at even a jrgp once!!
That would be one hell of a program, but unfortunately, I don't think it's likely. Not even Mao can consistently land ratified 3A's anymore, and she's been doing them in competition since 2004. Liza's body shape is no longer so willowy/slim (nor do I think it ever will be again) that she can rotate with the ease that you see in the video.
Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy
ETA @ gmyers: Many skaters train hard jumps without concrete plans to use them in competitive programs. Michelle did so with 3A's in the 90's, Sasha was landing quads prior to SLC, Gracie trains 3A's and 4S's in the pole harness, etc. There's even a video of Yuna attempting a 3A in practice. You have to evaluate the risk versus the gain, and unless your name is Midori Ito, it's almost always not worth it.
It's sad that skaters accomplish something in practice but never do it where it would count as them having done it! Like at lizas first or second jrgp trying and landing a 3a could've been great but now it's gone and impossible!
Originally Posted by ForeverFish
It is possible.
Originally Posted by silverlake22
Remember horrible skating of Gedevanishvili at 2012/2013, when she lost weight. Being fatter she skated much better.
Exactly. Which is why Liza should be eating properly and when and if Mishin decides it would be beneficial for her to lose weight, she needs to make sure she does it properly, by being strict with WHAT she eats as opposed to skipping meals entirely. If she skips meals and does not eat enough during the day, she may lose weight but her body will retain her fat stores and she may end up putting on more fat, at least at first, due to activating starvation metabolism mode. Not to mention she'd probably have very little energy. Some of her changes in body type are also temporary, it is common for teenagers to go through a period where they appear thicker through the waist and buttocks before the distribution of one's weight shifts and they develop a more defined waist and hips, making them look slimmer when actually it's just a matter of coming into one's adult figure.
Originally Posted by AlexRus
I'm really surprised Radionova and Sakhamovich aren't mentioned a whole lot here, since they - at least technically - have some of the most difficult program layouts ever performed. I mean, 3Z+3T and 3F-1/2L-3S... are you kidding me! Tuktamysheva is a bit more ambitious than Sotnikova jumps-wise, but I think Sotnikova's overall programs are more intricate and better performed.
It is most possibly because they are too young for Olympics-2014, while discussion is about Ladies who may take place in Olympics.
Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy
There are other young girls with high jumping performance.
Medvedeva and Sotskova land 3F+3T and 3F+3T in FS, and Medvedeva lands one of them (3S+3T) in second half of program.
This season Junior Grand Prix, I believe, will be very interesting. Sakhanovich, Medvedeva, Sotskova, Proklova, Karen Chen, Polina Edmunds - so many newcomers of high level.