I totally agree with this. I don't really see the point of skaters doing the same jump twice in the same program, and I would save that for a jump that's the second jump in a triple-triple combination (i.e. A skater could do a triple salchow-triple loop and then a second solo triple loop, and of course, a skater could do a combination of the same triple, like a triple toe-triple toe).
Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy
It would free up a jumping pass for most skaters and allow for more choreography and artistry.
Suppose the skater's best jump is triple salchow and the only triple-triple combination she can do is 3S+3Lo (or 3S+3T). She can also do 3S from a really difficult entrance -- but not in a way that allows her to put another triple on the landing. Or she can do something difficult and creative with the landing of a solo 3S -- which would not be possible in a combination. So in this case, it makes sense for repeat rule to require that the repeated jump be in combination one of the times it's performed, but not to require that it be the last jump in the combination.
Originally Posted by tommyk75
The same argument above applies if the skater's best jump she wants to repeat is triple lutz (or flip -- or axel, for that matter).
And then you have lower-ranked senior ladies who can only do two triples and who can't do any 3-3 combos. Even if they do solo 3S, 3S+2T, solo 3T, 3T+2T, and two double axels passes, that still leaves one more jump pass for doubles. If you take away their permission to repeat the two triples they can do, they'll only be able to spend two jump passes on triple jumps and they'll end up repeating several different doubles.
I think all of these changes would be great, hadn't even thought of most of these but after reading I think they are needed. GS should be in charge of rules making :D
Great points. Falls as a % of TSS make a lot of sense so that it's a consistent penalty across levels. And more flexibility in the free program would be awesome. With CoP, programs tend to look similar. It would be awesome if skaters had the flexibility to do more of what they do well.
Originally Posted by gkelly
Great point. Not sure how to get around this. Maybe only seeing consistently successful attempts would be good, but on the other hand people might become too safe.
Originally Posted by bara1968
- Allow one extra triple of any type so long as it is not the first part of a combination or sequence
- A fall on a non-element (transitional work) gets a -3 deduction, not a -1
- For any negative GOE received, take half and subtract it from the PES. So, a -3 for falling on any element will get an automatic -1.5 off the PES. This is on top of the -1 mandatory deduction for falling.
Put the 'free' back into freeskating!