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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    Reynolds has withdrawn. Scroll down to paragraph 5. No reason given.

    Apparently his knee injury is not healed yet. Wishing him a speedy recovery.

    http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/p...0.html?id=1428
    Injury is not the cause of Reynolds' withdrawal, per Skate Canada's press release:

    Kevin Reynolds withdrawn from figure skating’s Cup of China
    OTTAWA, ON: Equipment issues will keep Kevin Reynolds, 23, Coquitlam, B.C., from competing at this week’s Cup of China, the third of six stops on the ISU Grand Prix Circuit. The event runs from November 1-3, 2013, in Beijing, China.
    The two-time Canadian silver medalist has been struggling with issues with his skates since the start of this season. Without being able to resolve the problems and get the skating boots to fit properly, he has missed training time, and is unable to compete for Canada in men’s at this event.
    http://www.skatecanada.ca/AboutUs/Ne...S/Default.aspx (Oct 30)

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    ^Good news he is not injured, bad news about his boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    ^Good news he is not injured, bad news about his boots.
    yes it is good news BUT surely he must have known about missed training time and not being in form to reperesent Canada before now ????? At this late stage it will probably be impossible for the organizers to find a replacement - once again a selfish outlook from a skater and his coach(s) that negatively impacts the sport .

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    Maybe because Rogozine and Balde are on the replacement list??

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottadance View Post
    yes it is good news BUT surely he must have known about missed training time and not being in form to reperesent Canada before now ????? At this late stage it will probably be impossible for the organizers to find a replacement - once again a selfish outlook from a skater and his coach(s) that negatively impacts the sport .
    Agreed. The situations with these last minute GP withdrawals is starting to get ridiculous. There's no way that a skater with boot trouble, lack of training, etc. would not be able to look at their situation 3 weeks ago and know that they wouldn't be in shape. It is quite detrimental to the events that end up with less than a full field. The ISU should either start assessing penalties or put into place a backup/alternate system, or both.

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    Misha Ge lives in China and could easily have been a replacement but it's too late now :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsisjiejie View Post
    Agreed. The situations with these last minute GP withdrawals is starting to get ridiculous. There's no way that a skater with boot trouble, lack of training, etc. would not be able to look at their situation 3 weeks ago and know that they wouldn't be in shape. It is quite detrimental to the events that end up with less than a full field. The ISU should either start assessing penalties or put into place a backup/alternate system, or both.
    I agree with this. The thing is you can't even really fault the skaters all that much, as there is absolutely no incentive for them to withdraw early. What if something changes and they end up being able to attend? What if the replacement skater takes this opportunity to push ahead? I also don't think its realistic to ask elite international skaters to standby on the off chance that there is a last minute withdrawal - there just needs to be consequences. A fine, a loss in ranking points or some other type of penalty for postponing withdrawals is needed. Obviously, this wouldn't apply for injuries happening too close to the start of the competition, but that is just a matter of reviewing cases and creating thresholds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nena View Post
    Misha Ge lives in China and could easily have been a replacement but it's too late now :(
    Shame, Misha is such an entertainer, and even if he often doesn't look like a medal contender, he adds spice to any competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nena View Post
    Misha Ge lives in China and could easily have been a replacement but it's too late now :(
    The Chinese fed could still have invited him. He lives in Beijing where the event is being held so it wouldn't have cost them anything. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitterpatter View Post
    I agree with this. The thing is you can't even really fault the skaters all that much, as there is absolutely no incentive for them to withdraw early. What if something changes and they end up being able to attend? What if the replacement skater takes this opportunity to push ahead? I also don't think its realistic to ask elite international skaters to standby on the off chance that there is a last minute withdrawal - there just needs to be consequences. A fine, a loss in ranking points or some other type of penalty for postponing withdrawals is needed. Obviously, this wouldn't apply for injuries happening too close to the start of the competition, but that is just a matter of reviewing cases and creating thresholds.
    Yes, the current system encourages having competitions with far too few skaters competing.

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    COC is pretty weak for competitors. Not sure why. As for Ge doesn't China already have 3 competitors - the max. This "ain't " the Chinese Nationals. As for Reynolds this does not bold well for his Olympics. I still think the drive to compete and win often leads to people leaving things to last minute hoping for the miracle. We see it all the time or suspect it - Cohen, Weir, Evan, Czisny, maybe Pang and Tong. Suguri, maybe Abbott too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    COC is pretty weak for competitors. Not sure why. As for Ge doesn't China already have 3 competitors - the max. This "ain't " the Chinese Nationals.
    He represents Uzbekistan, not China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Yes, the current system encourages having competitions with far too few skaters competing.
    Also agree. Some penalty should be put in place for people who fail to withdraw barring a last minute injury the date of which can be documented (should be easy enough for a skater to do).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    The Chinese fed could still have invited him. He lives in Beijing where the event is being held so it wouldn't have cost them anything. :(
    They still have to pay expenses for the skater. The ISU requires all competitors to stay at the event hotel even if they live in the area, it seems. I remember seeing a video from the Shibtuanis about carrying their luggage into the hotel and Davis and White mentioned in an article that the competition experience was the same at home since they have to stay at the hotel.

    That said, that and a few meals would cost them maybe $1k at most, so I agree that he could have been invited.

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    one also wonders where Skate Canada were in all this - since Reynolds pulled out of the Japan Open just a month ago they had to know there were issues with him - shouldnt they have been monitoring the situation especially when Rogozine and Balldje were the official replacements apparently?

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