09-02-2013, 01:59 PM
A lot will happen between now and February. I think the fact that it is so hotly debated means how uncertain the outcome will be. Truly excited.
09-02-2013, 05:42 PM
Wicked Yankee Girl
It's lovely to have a really good rivalry going into an Olympics. That's why 1988 was such a special Olympics in men's, ladies, and even pairs. Dance not so much. B&B winning were a forgone conclusion.
09-02-2013, 06:00 PM
I agree this is a special match-up. Both are strong teams for different reasons. I do hope this doesn't come down to personal preference, though. First of all it has to be about the technical achievement - the levels of the SD and the step sequences in both SD and FD are the main deciders generally for teams at such an elite level. When it comes to PCS, I really truly hope this is not about personal preference. The rules and criteria and intent of the PCS are actually quite detailed, and if there would be some extra effort on the part of the judges to be really clear about what constitutes lower and higher levels and marks ahead of the competitive season, then perhaps we would have less controversy. I truly believe that as a general rule there is not nearly enough attention paid to all the aspects of PCS, and GOE's are not nearly defined well enough. Edge quality, matching lines, smoothness, positions in lifts, difficult and novel choreography, timing and musicality, etc. are too often ignored in both GOE and PCS. It's too easy to just reward speed. Ice dance is not a speed contest. It's ice dance.
Originally Posted by TontoK
09-02-2013, 06:08 PM
I know what you're saying... but while we can enjoy both V/M and D/W, many of us give a slight edge to one or the other based on what we see as important.
I can't see where judges would be any different, especially if both teams deliver the superb performances they are capable of.
In this match-up it could boil down to GOE, and, as you say, that's defined in such a way as to permit a greater degree of subjectiveness.
I really hope it doesn't come down to a particularly visible error (like V/M twizzle bobble WC SD 13) to decide.
09-05-2013, 02:45 PM
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