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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanatic View Post
    Oh, I know her chances of winning are extremely low to nonexistent. But in a scenario where there is a surprise gold medalist at the games, my vote would go for Akiko. Ice is slippery though, so you never know what will happen.
    I will also give the Gold medal to Akiko Suzuki. She is just glorious!

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ZkCoM0NA4

    Here is a clip about Akiko's short program. Can someone who speak Japanese tell me what are they saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanatic View Post
    Oh, I know her chances of winning are extremely low to nonexistent. But in a scenario where there is a surprise gold medalist at the games, my vote would go for Akiko. Ice is slippery though, so you never know what will happen.
    That would be the biggest upset in Olympic skating history bar none. Even a bigger upset than Paul Wylie's shock silver in 1992. It might even be the biggest upset in any skating competition period if Suzuki won the OGM next year. A year ago I wouldnt have said that, but obviously a ton has changed in one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    I believe the 3rd skater should be selected on the basis of "usefulness for Japan", not current scoring abilities. Miyahara is expected to make contributions (along with Murakami) at least until Marin moves up to the senior rank. It probably means that Miyahara is responsible for obtaining the spots for 2018. They shouldn't waste a valuable Olympic spot to a veteran who has no chance of a medal and future expectations.
    I disagree with this philosophy. Why waste a spot on Miyahara, who would be lucky to be in the top 15 in Sochi, when you have a skater who should be in the top six or top eight? Wouldn't that be more useful for Japan to have three skaters in the top ten? Miyahara will have many chances in 2014-2015 to take her place on Japan's world team after Mao and Akiko retire. Giving her Sochi experience won't make her UR's suddenly dissappear. She may be the future, but she hasn't shown she is worthy of displacing Akiko for Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    I believe the 3rd skater should be selected on the basis of "usefulness for Japan", not current scoring abilities. Miyahara is expected to make contributions (along with Murakami) at least until Marin moves up to the senior rank. It probably means that Miyahara is responsible for obtaining the spots for 2018. They shouldn't waste a valuable Olympic spot to a veteran who has no chance of a medal and future expectations.
    I wouldn't say Suzuki has no chances of a medal. Suzuki has beaten Mao (at WTT), and should have won NHK. She is inconsistent between her SP and FS, but I wouldn't count her out. For OGM though that is very unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    I wouldn't say Suzuki has no chances of a medal. Suzuki has beaten Mao (at WTT), and should have won NHK. She is inconsistent between her SP and FS, but I wouldn't count her out. For OGM though that is very unlikely.
    Mao is not the only skater she has to beat for Bronze, though.

    Not to say Akiko doesn't have a chance, but unfortunately many things are holding her back.

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    her biggest hurdle now is time and age
    I think she might have passed her all time peak last season

    she regressed a bit in the middle of last season
    since her great form in 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moment View Post
    Mao is not the only skater she has to beat for Bronze, though.

    Not to say Akiko doesn't have a chance, but unfortunately many things are holding her back.
    This is true (about Mao)... but I think many think the overwhelming favourites for the podium are Kim, Mao and Kostner, particularly with their PCS advantage over the field. Suzuki can garner good PCS but she's one of those skaters that her PCS actually reflects her performance/skate (I know, what a concept!) instead of being able to rely on good PCS even with errors. If she goes clean, she can really put the pressure on Kostner and Asada. The Olympics is about skating clean, and it's not something that Kostner and Asada are known for, so the judges might be inclined to reward a clean Suzuki. Even Murakami who is prone to UR's might end up placing well if her program "looks" cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    This is true (about Mao)... but I think many think the overwhelming favourites for the podium are Kim, Mao and Kostner, particularly with their PCS advantage over the field. Suzuki can garner good PCS but she's one of those skaters that her PCS actually reflects her performance/skate (I know, what a concept!) instead of being able to rely on good PCS even with errors. If she goes clean, she can really put the pressure on Kostner and Asada. The Olympics is about skating clean, and it's not something that Kostner and Asada are known for, so the judges might be inclined to reward a clean Suzuki. Even Murakami who is prone to UR's might end up placing well if her program "looks" cleaner.
    Mao can definitely produce "cleanish" skates in good form, a recent example being her GPF performances except for the doubled Salchow. A doubled jump is not a major mistake that disturbs the program as a whole, anyway.

    There are too many "ifs" for a scenario that allows Akiko a top three finish. Very few, small to no errors from the skater, the other skaters not performing well enough. Because she is not clearly ahead of the rest of the field who are NOT "the top three" skaters (more accurately, Yuna and the other two ). She is now in the mix with other top level skaters including two Americans, two Russians and Kanako Murakami.

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    She gets a lot of respect from me. She's got to where she's now against the odds. I don't mean in the talent department, but the overt favoritism of her fed and her earlier struggle with physical disorder. I want to see her on the Sochi podium. I wish she skate with the same confidence and focus as she did in NHK.

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    GOOooooo Akiko! GOOOooooo other ladies!! Olympic medals are not sealed/stamped for and shipped to only these three skaters YET. (Hoping I have picked up English words that are appropriate enough, but apology if sounding a bit cynical to some of you. )

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    I don't think you sound cynical. You're exactly right, Deedee. The future is open, and one never knows how a competition will turn out. And that's a good thing. Otherwise, the leaders would grow complacent, and the climbers would have no reason to keep on trying. In a way it's unfortunate that there are more good skaters than there are medals, but it also means that many skaters have a chance to excel, and fans can root for more than just two or three "inevitable" champions.

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    I think Akiko has a great shot of making the Olympic team. Besides I don't think anyone is a lock to make the team yet. I do think that if she does make the team I could see her placing top 10. Maybe even top 5.

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    She is old and lacks excitement and her skating is stale. So she lacks excitement, youthful vigor, originality and pizzzazzzzz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk8Boi View Post
    She is old and lacks excitement and her skating is stale. So she lacks excitement, youthful vigor, originality and pizzzazzzzz.
    Are you kidding me?! Akiko is one of the few skaters who can get the audiences excited to watch, is full of vigor, originality and pizazz!!

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