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    List of participants JGP II Mexico 2013


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    About Russian Ladies:

    Natalia OGORELTSEVA - see http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...l=1#post715724
    Season 2012/2013 - 13th at Senior Nationals, 2nd at Nats Younger Age(Zhuk), 3rd at Nats Elder Age.
    Has exotic combo 3Lo+3Lo.
    Her main problem is unstability.

    Julia LI - the only Lady in Team Russia without 3+3 combo. But her 2A+3T and 2A+1Lo+3S give her 7 triples in FS and 57.11 Base Value.
    Born 12 Jun 1999.

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    Alexei GENIA - born 17 Sep 1999, 14th at SrNats, 9th at JrNats, 1st at Final of Russian Cup (Junior), best score 205.08 (Junior). All five triples, 3Lz+3T.

    Andrei LAZUKIN - born 19 Now 1997, 13th at SrNats, 8th at JrNats, 3rd at Nats Elder Age, best score 199.24 (Junior). All five triples, 3Lz+3T.

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    Edmunds will obliterate the ladies here

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    Another great event for the girls: this year it will be USA vs Russia all over the place I think (with maybe some Hae-Jin "infiltration")! I'm sad that Ogoreltseva can't try her 3Lo+3Lo in the SP, and I hope that Li has learned a 3-3, even an "easy" 3T+3T would be fine, as long as she skates a clean 7-triples FS with 2A+3T and 2A+3S... I really like both of them! But I think that Polina is the favourite for Gold at this event: if there is a generous technical panel she shouldn't have problems, but if there is a strict panel that marks her 3-3s as < and << (like Nationals for example), she could be in trouble... No "veterans" in Ice Dance, I really like Edwards/Pang so I would love to see them on the podium, hopefully with a gold medal! Our Italian couple (Sforza/Fioretti) is a good-level team, too, they can hope for a 4th place finish, even for the podium if some of the American or Russian couples doesn't skate well...
    (But, I remember that during the last seasons we didn't have the chance to know the JGP entries this early...something changed!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Edmunds will obliterate the ladies here
    May be. But no warranty.

    Base value of SP+FS Polina Edmunds at Nationals (Junior) 82.15.
    The same of Julia Li Nationals Elder Age 85.74.

    It will be interesting Event with no predicted leader.

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    Does Julia Li's base contain the technical bonus that they used to give at Russian nationals? If so it should be subtracted before comparing to Edmunds' base.

    I agree it will be an interesting matchup!

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    Past three years, no Russian lady has won medals at JGP outside of Europe. Even the Russian fed knows that and sending second tier skaters here. My prediction is two Americans and Hongo or KOR on the podium. The loop is the weakest jump for Hongo and Japanese skaters are not doing well in Mexico.

    Since 2004, the only Russian lady who won a medal outside of Europe is Makarova, a Russian skater in USA.

    2012(USA) JPN USA USA
    2011(AUS) USA JPN USA
    2010(JPN) JPN USA CHN
    2009(USA) USA RUS SWE
    2008(RSA) USA CAN USA
    2008(MEX) USA USA KOR
    2007(USA) USA USA USA
    2006(TPE) USA JPN KOR
    2006(MEX) USA ESP KOR
    2005(JPN) JPN USA CHN
    2005(CAN) JPN USA FRA
    2004(CHN) JPN KOR CAN
    2004(USA) JPN USA USA

    And since 2009, the winner of the 3rd JGP won everything in the season. This pattern might hold up in this season too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Does Julia Li's base contain the technical bonus that they used to give at Russian nationals?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    My prediction is two Americans and Hongo or KOR on the podium.
    OK, Julia Li is korean.

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    Julia Lee...I've never seen this girl.

    One thing sure is that Mexico is a turf of USA. Russians should expect facing some rough deals. That's why they are sending "expendable" skaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    Julia Lee...I've never seen this girl.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqzFWG16sGg
    Video from her last competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    No "veterans" in Ice Dance, I really like Edwards/Pang so I would love to see them on the podium, hopefully with a gold medal! Our Italian couple (Sforza/Fioretti) is a good-level team, too, they can hope for a 4th place finish, even for the podium if some of the American or Russian couples doesn't skate well...
    (But, I remember that during the last seasons we didn't have the chance to know the JGP entries this early...something changed!)
    Don't overlook Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER. They were 7th at 2013 JW, while EDWARDS / PANG were 12th and SFORZA / FIORETTI 13th. H/B had the highest Junior SD and FD scores at the Lake Placid Dance competition last week, and beat E/P by 8 points. I do think these 3 teams all have a good shot to make the podium---the Russian teams aren't that strong.

    BTW, the JGP entries for each event are released about 4 weeks before each event, just as they have been every year. We should have the entries for the third event in Kosice SVK early next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMURA View Post
    Julia Lee...I've never seen this girl.

    One thing sure is that Mexico is a turf of USA. Russians should expect facing some rough deals. That's why they are sending "expendable" skaters.
    You don't think NA teams get 'rough deals' at events in former SSRs? Usually the judging panels at those events (especially the dance panels) have 3 or even 4 judges from former SSRs. The maximum number of NA judges is 3; MEX judges don't necessarily support US and CAN skaters, and I don't think I've ever seen a panel with 3 NA judges.

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    Heck, I haven't seen much evidence that Canada judges favor US skaters and vice versa. If NA is a bloc, it is a remarkably ineffective one. There is more proof of a Canada / France bloc

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    The list for JGP Mexico has also been updated:

    Da-Bin Choi for Korean Ladies/June-Hyeong Lee for Korean Men.

    I don't know if Korea had a slot for ice dance for JGP Mexico, but since(from what I've been hearing so far) Ji-Won Kim/Jae-Woong Oh won't be competing @ JGP this year, I think Kim/Minov would be free to choose a JGP competition that is close to Russia as possible.

    I can see them going to Belarus if Korea did have a slot for ice dance there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnstep View Post
    The list for JGP Mexico has also been updated:

    Da-Bin Choi for Korean Ladies/June-Hyeong Lee for Korean Men.
    It is because Korean qualifiers for JGP finished and Korea made its team.
    Quote Originally Posted by Finnstep View Post
    I don't know if Korea had a slot for ice dance for JGP Mexico, but since(from what I've been hearing so far) Ji-Won Kim/Jae-Woong Oh won't be competing @ JGP this year, I think Kim/Minov would be free to choose a JGP competition that is close to Russia as possible.
    Korea has ice dance slot at 2,3,5,6,7 JGP Events.
    It did not use its slot at 2nd Mexico Event.
    The only participants in qualifying were Rebeka Kim/Kirill Minov. Korea needs only two slots.

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