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Thread: Nebelhorn Trophy 2013: Sep 25-28 [Oberstdorf, Germany] - Olympic Qualifying Event

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    Nebelhorn Trophy 2013: Sep 25-28 [Oberstdorf, Germany] - Olympic Qualifying Event

    Nebelhorn Trophy 2013: Sep 25-28 [Oberstdorf, Germany] - Olympic Qualifying Event

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    For some (but not all) countries, LIVE STREAMING of Nebelhorn competitions is available on the ISU's YouTube channel:
    The ISU stream is geo-blocked in the U.S. and Japan, for example.

    Direct link to ISU page for Nebelhorn Starting orders + Results + Time Schedules, etc.:

    ISU event overview page for links to Nebelhorn Entries/Starting orders/Results:

    GoldenSkate thread re Eurosport coverage of Nebelhorn:
    http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...e!-(Nebelhorn)
    [fyi, CaroLiza_fan's post #25 on p. 2 has lots of scheduling information as of Sep 24: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...l=1#post765814 ]

    Official Nebelhorn announcement (12-page PDF):

    Skate Canada has posted its Nebelhorn assignments.

    Ladies
    • Veronik Mallet
    Men
    • Jeremy Ten
    Pair
    • Natasha Purich/Mervin Tran
    Ice Dance
    • Alexander [sic ] Paul/Mitchell Islam

    ETA: I copied and pasted the list above from the Skate Canada page -- just noticed that they messed up Alexandra Paul's name. :(

    ETA, thanks to Doris for creating the Senior B sub-forum and moving this thread over there.

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    This ought to be good - a nice easy entry into international Seniors for Jason. Oda, Dmitriev and Martinez the only ones likely to give him any bother, and he beat Martinez last time out, and Dmitriev hasn't been skating well in a long while.

    I just noticed Australia has no pair entered. #teamaustraliaforteamevent

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    Purich/Tran and Takahashi/Kihara both are among the pair entries.

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    Olympic qualifying analysis time, then. Men's entries for countries not yet qualified:

    1 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM 1
    2 Brendan KERRY AUS 2
    Andrew DODDS AUS 2 S
    Jordan DODDS AUS 2 S
    David KRANJEC AUS 2 S
    Mark WEBSTER AUS 2 S
    3 Pavel IGNATENKO BLR 3
    Mikhail KARALIUK BLR 3 S
    Vitali LUCHANOK BLR 3 S
    4 Luiz MANELLA BRA 4
    Kevin ALVES BRA 4 S
    5 Manol ATANASSOV BUL 5
    Iassen PETKOV BUL 5 S
    7 Jordan JU TPE 7
    8 Josip GLUHAK CRO 8
    10 Justus STRID DEN 10
    11 Hyon CHOE PRK 11
    12 Bela PAPP FIN 12
    13 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN 12
    Matthias VERSLUIS FIN 12 S
    15 Phillip HARRIS GBR 14
    Harry MATTICK GBR 14 S
    Matthew PARR GBR 14 S
    16 Ronald LAM HKG 15
    17 Marton MARKO HUN 16
    Kristof FORGO HUN 16 S
    18 Conor STAKELUM IRL 17
    19 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR 18
    20 Stanislav SAMOKHIN ISR 18
    21 Paul Bonifacio PARKINSON ITA 19
    Paolo BACCHINI ITA 19 S
    Dario BETTI ITA 19 S
    Saverio GIACOMELLI ITA 19 S
    Antonio PANFILI ITA 19 S
    Maurizio ZANDRON ITA 19 S
    23 Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 21
    24 Fabriczio CARRILLO MEX 22
    25 Florian GOSTELIE NED 23
    Boyito MULDER NED 23 S
    26 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI 24
    Christopher CALUZA PHI 24 S
    27 Maciej CIEPLUCHA POL 25
    Patrick MYZYK POL 25 S
    28 Jin Seo KIM KOR 26
    Dong-Won LEE KOR 26 S
    June Hyoung LEE KOR 26 S
    29 Zoltan KELEMEN ROU 27
    Catalin DIMITRESCU ROU 27 S
    32 Stephane WALKER SUI 30
    Mikael REDIN SUI 30 S
    33 Osman AKGÜN TUR 31
    Ali DEMIRBOGA TUR 31 S
    34 Yakov GODOROZHA UKR 32

    27 countries, 2 of them sending two contenders while the others all send one, six spots, no countries that have the other 24 likely to give any of them up, and no locks. Insert Hunger Games reference here. Then consider:

    Yakov Godorozha: Just missed at Worlds
    Justus Strid: Also made the men's free at Worlds, but was much further behind
    Maciej Ciepulcha: Just missed qualifying for the free
    Jin-Seo Kim: Behind Ciepulcha, but has the potential to do better than that
    Michael Christian Martinez: Wasn't at Worlds because Chris Caluza took that berth over him, but considered likely to pass him sooner or later
    Pavel Ignatenko: Withdrew from Worlds, beat three of the above plus Olympic qualifier Viktor Romanenkov at Europeans
    Stephane Walker: Has earned scores comparable to those above
    Luiz Manella: Lacked the qualifying score for Worlds, but getting some attention very recently since, and it should be kept in mind that non-European skaters have less chances to earn said score
    Hyon Choe: Did respectably enough at the Asian Figure Skating Trophy two weeks ago, the first time we've seen anything of him, and North Korea does often qualify at least one skater for the games
    Alexei Bychenko & Stanislav Samokhin: The former probably has more chance than the latter, who has no international record sending an extra skater probably ups a country's chances at least a little
    Bela Papp & Valtter Virtanen: Have generally weaker records than Bychenko, but again there's two of them...
    Zoltan Keleman: The only man here competing for a spot who has won one in the past, which he did for the last Olympics

    Predicting seems like shooting in the dark, but I'm going to go with Godorozha, Kim, Martinez, Ignatenko, Ciepulcha, and for the final spot, I've just got a feeling about Manella, though I'd be close to saying Keleman instead. Look for me to probably be wrong. Ladies and couples coming up this evening, hopefully.

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    Question about the pairs event: why are Tatiana NOVIK / Andrei NOVOSELOV competing for Romania? There must be some kind of mistake.

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    Wish the best for Purich/Tran!

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    I had a look at the Nebelhorn trophy announcement and it said that if a nations wanted to gain an olympic qualification spot in a certain discipline through Nebelhorn, they were only allowed to send one entry for that discipline.

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    Jason and Radionova: two Senior debuts that I'm REALLY looking forward to! And, in Ice Dance M/K vs H/D should be interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirunna View Post
    Question about the pairs event: why are Tatiana NOVIK / Andrei NOVOSELOV competing for Romania? There must be some kind of mistake.
    perhaps they switch countries
    and now compete for Romania ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    perhaps they switch countries
    and now compete for Romania ?
    I found nothing on the internet about this, no news, 0 (but that's not too relevant since Romania's interest in figure skating is practically non existent and the Romanian figure skating federation's site has not been updated since 2011 or close to that). I am very curious to see if it's true and what are they planning for the future

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    Very excited for Jason's senior international debut! He could easily win this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverFish View Post
    Very excited for Jason's senior international debut! He could easily win this...
    It will be a great debut, I'm sure. I don't think he'll beat Oda though. Will be interesting to see how their PCS compares though.

    Hoping Purich/Tran have a great result. V/T and J/C should go 1-2, but there are a few teams that can win bronze.

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    Another very interesting entry:

    Olga BESTANDIGOVA / Ilhan MANSIZ TUR

    Isn't he the soccer player who wanted to become a skater? It must be their first competition ever together (besides Stars on Ice Turkey).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GF2445 View Post
    I had a look at the Nebelhorn trophy announcement and it said that if a nations wanted to gain an olympic qualification spot in a certain discipline through Nebelhorn, they were only allowed to send one entry for that discipline.
    Hmmmm. Perhaps Finland and Israel are planning to pull some of their entries later. In any case, I'm going to ignore the presence of Juulia Turkkila on the ladies roster here, because really, Kiira Korpi's going to go if she can and qualify the spot if she's allowed to. Ladies entries for countries not yet qualified:

    1 Brooklee HAN AUS 1
    Chantelle KERRY AUS 1 S
    Jaimee NOBBS AUS 1 S
    Stephanie ZHANG AUS 1 S
    2 Kerstin FRANK AUT 2
    Victoria HUEBLER AUT 2 S
    Belinda SCHÖNBERGER AUT 2 S
    3 Kristina ZAKHARANKA BLR 3
    Victoria LIAKHAVA BLR 3 S
    4 Kaat VAN DAELE BEL 4
    Isabelle PIEMAN BEL 4 S
    5 Isadora WILLIAMS BRA 5
    6 Anna AFONKINA BUL 6
    Daniela STOEVA BUL 6 S
    8 Crystal KIANG TPE 8
    9 Eliska BREZINOVA CZE 9
    Jana COUFALOVA CZE 9 S
    Laura RASZYKOVA CZE 9 S
    Klara SVETLIKOVA CZE 9 S
    Elizaveta UKOLOVA CZE 9 S
    10 Anita MADSEN DEN 10
    12 Kiira KORPI FIN 12
    13 Juulia TURKKILA FIN 12
    Rosaliina KUPARINEN FIN 12 S
    Seidi RANTANEN FIN 12 S
    14 Elene GEDEVANISHVILI GEO 13
    16 Isabella SCHUSTER-VELISSARIOU GRE 15
    Georgia GLASTRIS GRE 15 S
    17 Chelsea Rose CHIAPPA HUN 16
    18 Clara PETERS IRL 17
    19 Danielle MONTALBANO ISR 18
    20 Alina FJODOROVA LAT 19
    21 Inga JANULEVICIUTE LTU 20
    22 Fleur MAXWELL LUX 21
    23 Reyna HAMUI MEX 22
    24 Michelle COUWENBERG NED 23
    Kim BELL NED 23 S
    25 Anne Line GJERSEM NOR 24
    26 Alisson Krystle PERTICHETO PHI 25
    Melissa BULANHAGUI PHI 25 S
    27 Agata KRYGER POL 26
    28 Sabina MARIUTA ROU 27
    Julia SAUTER ROU 27 S
    30 Sandra RISTIVOJEVIC SRB 29
    31 Dasa GRM SLO 30
    Nika CERIC SLO 30 S
    32 Lejeanne MARAIS RSA 31
    33 Sonia LAFUENTE ESP 32
    35 Tina STUERZINGER SUI 34
    Anna OVCHAROVA SUI 34 S
    36 Sila SAYGI TUR 35
    Birce ATABEY TUR 35 S

    30 contenders for 6 spots, and Korpi, as I said already, is certain to take one of them. Elene Gedevanishvili in theory should too if she skates half-decently; her recent track record there is concerning but nonetheless let's pencil her in. For four more spots that leaves:

    Sonia LaFuente: Would've qualified at Worlds with a better free, and that she didn't was quite the disappointment; qualified at Nebelhorn four years ago
    Brooklee Han: Just missed at Worlds, amid debate as to whether final qualifier Jenna McCorkell was held up over her
    Kerstin Frank: Poor Frank, two quadrenniums in a row she's made the free at the pre-Olympic Worlds then failed to get a spot out of that, but at least this time around she wasn't passed within her own country before Nebelhorn
    Isadora Williams: Just missed making the free at Worlds
    Anita Madsen: Only a fraction behind Williams in the short, and has a higher PB than her
    Alina Fjodorova: Has a higher PB than either of the above two
    Fleur Maxwell: Qualified in 2006, but that was a very long time ago

    LaFuente looks pretty good, and from the others, I'll predict Han, Madsen, & Frank.

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