09-30-2013, 05:51 PM
This threads title final word can be potholes now
09-30-2013, 07:23 PM
I am so surprised. Surprised, shocked, distressed.
The only surprise here is that it's actually not the week before SkAm.
09-30-2013, 09:22 PM
The timing of the USOC Media Summit - going on now in Park City - likely drove the necessity of making an announcement. Otherwise, he would have been in the position of needing to provide misleading responses that would have only backfired on him if he withdrew just 2 weeks later.
Originally Posted by karne
09-30-2013, 10:00 PM
I think that the timing of the announcement is due to the MRI test result that he got last Thursday, which revealed the torn labrum in his left hip. With the torn labrum, there is no way he could be physically ready to compete at Skate America. Lysacek had been off the ice one month due to a slight abdominal tear, and had returned to the ice in hopes of being ready to compete at SA. However, what little chance he had ended with the labrum tear.
Originally Posted by GGoldberg
09-30-2013, 10:26 PM
Just like I predicted when his "comeback" was first announced he was never going to actually follow through and compete. This was just about keeping his names in the news before he becomes completely irrelevant for good after the Sochi Olympics. He will not announce the end of his comeback until right before Nationals where he will WD last minute, to milk every last ounce of publicity he can though. I am not criticizing him btw, from a financial standpoint it is very smart on his behalf. Competing where he would place very poorly in todays field (healthy or not) would be the only mistake.
09-30-2013, 11:50 PM
And I assume that you believe that part of Evan's charade was to undergo surgery last year in an attempt to "just keep his name out there" and "milk every little bit of publicity" that he can. Evan may not be able to compete again; however, it will not be because of a lack of desire or lack of effort on his part.
Originally Posted by pangtongfan
09-30-2013, 11:55 PM
Alot of skaters have desire and want to win - doesn't mean they can pull it off. I never for one nanosecond felt that we would see Evan at Nationals. And I agree with pangtongfan that keeping "the dream" alive was probably pretty financially beneficial to him. I've said this many times (probably in this thread even) that Evan should just wear his gold medal proudly and be happy he attained that level in his sport - not besmirch it with a less than perfect performance, which was very, very unlikely at his age and with the lack of competition in the last few years.
Originally Posted by pangtongfan
10-01-2013, 12:11 AM
There's a pretty obvious answer to this that has nothing to do with conspiracy.
Imagine if you're an elite athlete. You've experienced the very apex of your sport, an Olympic Gold Medal. It must be the most thrilling moment.
Surely, you'd like to experience that again, or at least to have the opportunity to be in the chase.
Whether Evan can actually pull off the impossible dream or not, I don't doubt his motives.
For the record, I don't think he'll make it, but I also don't begrudge him the chance to strive.
10-01-2013, 12:14 AM
next thing is to pull out at nationals
lyacek is a joke
10-01-2013, 02:01 AM
Well, if he does, he does. He's still the reigning Olympic gold medalist. Maybe hard for you to swallow, but hardly a joke.
Originally Posted by sky_fly20
As far as a skater's comeback is concerned, there is certainly the potential to back out. They don't owe it to anyone to compete or to prove people wrong. Two things can happen: the first, more rare option, is that the skater actually comes back (see Shen/Zhao, Kim) after a hiatus and has still maintained their ability and are also fortunate that the rest of the field hasn't progressed; the second, is that the skater comes back, and unfortunately for them, they don't posses their former ability and/or the field has become too strong.
Clearly Evan is in the second boat, and whether or not his ability returned or whether he was injured, the main factor deterring him from a comeback is that the men's field has progressed considerably. I know last year's Worlds were a disaster, but aside from that, the men have really upped their difficulty and standards. Evan wouldn't have been able to get away with his 2010 skate in Sochi, but I'd rather he rest up and takes care of his health than risk injuring himself or compete while unprepared just so people can be like "I told you so, what a surprise".
It's hilarious/ridiculous that people here are like "Evan pulled out! just like I predicted!", as if we all weren't aware that his comeback chances were slim to begin with.
10-01-2013, 02:18 AM
As CanadianSkaterG said, Sky-fly, it's Not a Joke. He won the OGM in 2010! You don't like him but you have to live with it.
Originally Posted by sky_fly20
10-01-2013, 04:47 AM
So sorry to hear about Evan's injury. Labrum torn does sound a serious injury... Sincerely hope he gets first-class medicare (which he will I have no doubt) and rests enough as much as needed, so that he recovers completely.
As for replacement of Evan at SA, this site has been updated indicating it will be Jason Brown, hoping it's true! : http://deep-edge.net/list.php?s=2013&no=1
10-01-2013, 05:23 AM
Maybe Evan should give up now... He can always be proud of his OG and of the fact he tried to come back to defend his title, but apparently it was not meant to be, unfortunately.
10-01-2013, 05:24 AM
well he won OGM in Vancouver didn't he ? he won that and nothing could change that
Originally Posted by spikydurian
I was talking about his comeback as a joke, his chance of even going to a competitive event is almost 0%
10-01-2013, 05:54 AM
Tripping on the Podium
Well, not all labral tears require surgery. Apparently he's opted for PT and they've specified it's his left hip, not his landing side unlike Alissa Czisny. Also, since he doesn't need to regain extreme mobility e.g. Alissa and her Beillmann, I guess there's a greater chance that he can work through it. Although who knows how his axel, toe loop and salchow take-offs will be affected. Combined with the abdominal tear and other chronic ailments that he might not be disclosing, it's still highly unlikely that he'll have any chance of making the Olympic team even if he does manage to drag himself into nationals somehow. I do feel bad for him though. At first I was cynical about his comeback as well, but it does seem sincere now.
Originally Posted by chuckm