12-10-2013, 06:12 AM
My reference to the "charade" was the rubbish that Lysacek was the only prospect of anything, which is blatantly false and, as I said, very annoying.
I have no doubt that Lysacek was injured - it always seemed to me that he pushed himself too far, too soon, quite regularly. He is not Weir who regularly faked. However I lost a ton of respect for Lysacek after that whole rubbish with Skate America where he withdrew because they could not come to a suitable financial arrangement! I mean, what a joke. The USFSA weren't jerks, Lysacek got greedy.
12-10-2013, 06:22 AM
Here is Phil Hersh's take, as of a few days ago, about why Lysacek is still in the conversation (basically, because no other U.S. man has stepped up over the last four years).
12-10-2013, 06:31 AM
Originally Posted by karne
Really...you want me to believe that your "charade" comment was not referring to Lysacek, when you make this comment about him in the other Lysacek thread: "my only surprise is that he didn't keep up the act until the day before Nationals." (FYI, to put on an act is a charade)
12-10-2013, 06:35 AM
To further clarify, it is my belief that Lysacek has known for some time that he would not recover in time, but has continued to say that he would to milk his sponsor spots. For which I cannot really blame him.
12-10-2013, 06:49 AM
You cannot fault Lysacek for trying to rehab the injury until time ran out. Most champion athletes fight until the bitter end...they don't just give up when there is still the remote possibility of recovery. The majority of Evan's sponsorships were inked prior to the latest injury (and a lot of the footage in the recent promotional clips included portions of his S& D free skate.. which was later changed to DQ in August) With the growing trend of a number of sponsors signing "legacy" athletes (i.e., former world & Olympic champions), Lysacek did not have to 'milk' the sponsors by pretending that he was going to compete. (As Coca-Cola stated, they hired a legacy athlete b/c the athlete could work on promoting the brand while the other athletes were having to focus on training and competing.)
Originally Posted by karne
01-17-2014, 11:22 PM
Bumping because you did, in fact, ,already get two wrong and with Wagner I think it will shortly be three. W/P did not win either of their GP events and were 5th in the GP final, and V/T have not won everything- they lost the GP Final.
Originally Posted by pangtongfan
02-12-2014, 06:20 PM
Actually Wagner could still medal at Worlds. And knowing pangtongfan, he'll say "Wagner won a medal in the team event, so my prediction stands as correct."
Originally Posted by tulosai
So far, pangtongfan's track record:
1. Chan is certainly in a suitable position to win gold, or at least silver. But we'll have to wait and see.
2. Weaver and Poje haven't won the GPF, or their first ever GP assignment, and certainly will not win the bronze in Sochi. Even Worlds if D/W and V/M retired they could still lose to B/S, I/K and P/B.
3. V/T, as you said, lost the GPF. They have my respect, but the judges certainly don't for their egregious PCS boosting and +GOE even on mistakes.
4. Pending... if Julia wins, that's another one wrong.
5. Wagner likely won't medal in Sochi, and at Worlds she'll be depending on retirements of Mao/Kim/Kostner to medal (and could still lose to Murakami/Gold/Suzuki).
6. Oooooh, he got one correct! Ando not making the Japanese Olympic team... such a daring prediction.
1, 2, and 4 can all potentially not happen. Somebody get ready for another bump!
02-12-2014, 08:57 PM
As for the topic of the thread, Lysacek did make it to Sochi. Here is is hanging out with Michelle Kwan and irina Slutskaya.
And here he is with Michelle and Tatiana Tarasova.
02-12-2014, 09:12 PM
I love that pic with Evan, Michelle and Irina. It's funny because when Irina was skating she would drive me crazy - I just thought she was so held up at the expense of skaters I liked (mostly Michelle lol). Now I see that pic and I have nothing but kind memories. It's good to remember how rivalries push the sport forward
Originally Posted by Mathman
02-12-2014, 10:28 PM
I feel similarly. I've really stopped rooting for specific skaters, I just want everyone to do their best!
Originally Posted by ivy
02-14-2014, 02:27 PM
02-16-2014, 03:25 PM
Long article but a good read:
Unable to compete, Lysacek still finding joy in Sochi
I thought his retirement was a foregone conclusion but maybe not?
02-17-2014, 10:46 PM
02-20-2014, 05:26 PM