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Thread: Finlandia Trophy 04 -06.10. 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by bramweld View Post
    ^^Yeah, but what is more startling is their low scores. Why were the TES so low? Judges must be sticklers maybe?
    Judges here were very strict. Otherwise, I don't think V/M and C/B's scores would've been that low.

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    Liza is totally not going to Sochi based on her skating. What's the deal with her and Sps??? Based on skating no way Liza or Adelina. Adelina bombs horribly Japan open and Liza bombs horribly finlandia sp

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    Lipnitskaya's 2Axel has improved.

    This is the first time in the past 4 seasons that Hanyu has missed a 3Axel in competition.

    Mirai was underscored.

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    Protocols are up.

    V/M and C/B made a lot of mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Liked V/M's FD, but I have to say that they are trying to create Mahler no. 2. Sadly.
    Virtue/Moir's FD definitely lived up to my expectations. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

    To me, only one moment was so very reminiscent of Mahler that I hope that they will consider changing it. It's when they are side by side facing the same direction, and they come to a stop for a second and look off into the distance.
    (Although Moir's costume also made me think of Mahler, the resemblance does not bother me at all.)

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    I thought it was just me also, but yes, it is freezing up off and on. (I'm in the southern US right now.) May be a bandwidth issue of our particular ISP's.
    Thanks for your reply and explanation, jiejie.
    In the end, I lucked out: the stream was fine for me during V/M's program and interview, which were what I most wanted to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Agree. Not super impressed at all by their FD.
    I'm sad to say I was bored by it. And I've never said that about any of V/M's competitive programs.

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    This program is nothing like Mahler.

    I am not sure about the ending pose...

    I won't even get into the scoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Liked V/M's FD, but I have to say that they are trying to create Mahler no. 2. Sadly.
    That is the worst FD I have seen from V/M since I first started watching them skate, and it was judged accordingly. Generic, boring music. Scott struggling to pick her up and put her back down (This has become almost expected now). The choreography and lifts are way too easy. Come on now, why would they do a curve lift so easy like that? And whats with the military salute at the end? Not memorable at all.

    That is not an Olympic gold medal program, in fact I would say they are in danger of being picked off by one of the Russian teams for second. B/S should be licking their chaps. There is definitely opportunity there. This reminds me of Belbin/Agosto last olympic cycle. And when was the last time V/M received scores this low in competition?

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    I would say Julia's choice of music is smart: if you are a person who does not show much emotion, a sad soft music will definitely work, since based on the music you are not supposed to show much. Her food steps are not that great, as noodly as most junior ladies. Among her and Radionova, I love Radionova better. Her spins are very centered with lots of power, and she is much more exciting to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    I think Mirai comes into a competition burdened by her past problems and might get extraordinary scrutiny. No benefit of doubt, which MIGHT be given to others. Must be discouraging. Really don't see how she finds it in herself
    to continue.
    The problem with Mirai is she doesn't connect at all with the audience or the music, it is like watching a bot. Even if she landed quads, I would be bored. The sad thing is, she has always had all kinds of talent, and off the ice, she has a terrific personality. Quite frankly, she skates as if someone is holding a gun to her head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippomoomin View Post
    I would say Julia's choice of music is smart: if you are a person who does not show much emotion, a sad soft music will definitely work, since based on the music you are not supposed to show much. Her food steps are not that great, as noodly as most junior ladies. Among her and Radionova, I love Radionova better. Her spins are very centered with lots of power, and she is much more exciting to watch.
    Julia's spins are faster and gets level4's
    Radionova has wobbly jumps now that she grew her 2A is her worst jump.
    seems her coach Goncharenko isn't good with 2A techniques, Samarin her boy student still cannot get a 3A even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Virtue/Moir's FD definitely lived up to my expectations. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

    To me, only one moment was so very reminiscent of Mahler that I hope that they will consider changing it. It's when they are side by side facing the same direction, and they come to a stop for a second and look off into the distance.
    (Although Moir's costume also made me think of Mahler, the resemblance does not bother me at all.)
    Well, it was not about specific moves: what made me think this program as a "second Mahler" was the overall feeling. Over the last three years, they have presented a completely new music choice every year: the energetic and sparklin Latin program, the jazzy, fun and elegant Funny Face and the passionate and dramatic Carmen; now they go back to a lyrical, soft, emotional program with classical ethereal music and that man-and-woman-in-love feeling shown by their ecstatic facial expressions=Mahler. And it was breathtaking. But it was three years ago.
    (this is the opinion of a huge V/M fan )

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippomoomin View Post
    I would say Julia's choice of music is smart: if you are a person who does not show much emotion, a sad soft music will definitely work, since based on the music you are not supposed to show much. Her food steps are not that great, as noodly as most junior ladies. Among her and Radionova, I love Radionova better. Her spins are very centered with lots of power, and she is much more exciting to watch.
    Julia is just exclusive Senior now right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachmaninoff View Post
    I'm sad to say I was bored by it. And I've never said that about any of V/M's competitive programs.
    Hmm, I wasn't so much bored as frustrated. They've gone back to the ooey-gooey (surprise surprise), and after the stylistic chances they've taken the last few years, it was disappointing. I do, however, like almost all of the new lifts (though that one where Ms V looks like she is doing a backflip into a pool just never works for me).

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    looks like D/W wont have to worry much about competition for the gold
    maybe a surprise even and V/M gets bumped to bronze by Sochi

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