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    Ouch, Evan Bates fell on the twizzles

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    Evan Bates down on the twizzles. Too bad.

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    Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
    Really lovely , unfortunately he fell on the twizzles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutien View Post
    Thank you!

    LOVE this program. As a program, for me, definitely better than D/W's at this time (though that is probably largely a matter of personal taste). They are definitely playing to their strengths and their 'romantic' connection on the ice, and for me it 100% works. Also love the lift at the end. Not sure if they've done something like it before but it looked a lot smoother than most of their lifts last year.

    That said, it was not as crisp as I'm used to seeing from them, especially Tessa. It looked to me like she had several very slight bobbles out there. It seemed a bit scratchy. It is to be hoped and expected that as the season goes on that will improve though

    As a program, though, I am in love. I also loved her dress. So pretty though she'll probably change it before Olys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Thank you!

    LOVE this program. As a program, for me, definitely better than D/W's at this time (though that is probably largely a matter of personal taste). They are definitely playing to their strengths and their 'romantic' connection on the ice, and for me it 100% works. Also love the lift at the end. Not sure if they've done something like it before but it looked a lot smoother than most of their lifts last year.

    That said, it was not as crisp as I'm used to seeing from them, especially Tessa. It looked to me like she had several very slight bobbles out there. It seemed a bit scratchy. It is to be hoped and expected that as the season goes on that will improve though

    As a program, though, I am in love. I also loved her dress. So pretty though she'll probably change it before Olys.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutien View Post
    Another quite charming program. I may be reluctantly warming up to this team. Pity about his fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Thank you!

    LOVE this program. As a program, for me, definitely better than D/W's at this time (though that is probably largely a matter of personal taste). They are definitely playing to their strengths and their 'romantic' connection on the ice, and for me it 100% works. Also love the lift at the end. Not sure if they've done something like it before but it looked a lot smoother than most of their lifts last year.

    That said, it was not as crisp as I'm used to seeing from them, especially Tessa. It looked to me like she had several very slight bobbles out there. It seemed a bit scratchy. It is to be hoped and expected that as the season goes on that will improve though

    As a program, though, I am in love. I also loved her dress. So pretty though she'll probably change it before Olys.
    I agree. Love the program & music. Smooth as silk, light with gorgeous edges & as usual, the character of the piece so on. Just one small "bobble" by Tessa in the 2nd twizzle. Scratching my head though about your comments regarding the lift being smoother. If you're referring to Carmen, then the lifts were MEANT to appear a struggle -- the push & pull between the characters was reflected in the choreography -- that's expression in dance at its best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Diva View Post
    I agree. Love the program & music. Smooth as silk, light with gorgeous edges & as usual, the character of the piece so on. Just one small "bobble" by Tessa in the 2nd twizzle. Scratching my head though about your comments regarding the lift being smoother. If you're referring to Carmen, then the lifts were MEANT to appear a struggle -- the push & pull between the characters was reflected in the choreography -- that's expression in dance at its best!
    I never like to discuss V/M because somehow I always get flamed even though I'ma fan of theirs (your comment wasn't flaming, just to be clear, but I had to seriously think about whether to answer due to the attitude I seem to get on these boards).

    That said, their original SP lift last year was a disaster. They could barely complete it and really, really messed it up in one competition. They then changed it to a different lift that was so not memorable that I can't even sort of see it in my head, so I can't say whether it looked like a struggle to me or not. The first lift definitely was for them though.

    I frankly don't agree that the Carmen lifts were just meant to look like a struggle. I think they were a struggle for Scott. Maybe there was some choreographic brilliance that I am just not seeing, but... well, yes. I just don't see it. It wasn't that the lifts looked like they were a dramatic, acted out struggle in the middle- most of them looked fairly smooth in the middle. It was that it looked like it was an enormous struggle for them to get in and out of the lifts, and in a very real way, not in an acted out way. Clearly, YMMV on this issue.

    ETA: As long as I'm going for it, I'll tell the whole truth- I also thought their LP lifts were by and large hideous and think they have an issue with lifts in general, which is that they sometimes try to make them too acrobatic for their body types. They will never be able to do D/W type lifts- they are too close in height and weight. I am constantly puzzled about why they don't do creative lifts that play to their strengths, such as the iconic swan lift from their Mahler program. They probably are harder to dream up but that's why you hire someone like Marina Zoueva- to do her job. Off now to brace myself for replies

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    After comparing protocols from Ondrej Nepala to Finlandia Trophy, I see that the technical panel for Finlandia Trophy were quite strict with the dancers.

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    Yes, it looks like it was a very, very tough panel. Tessa & Scott got level 4 in both Finnstep sequences in the Quebec summer comp; here they only got level 2. Madison & Evan got level 2 on one and level 3 on the other. The other teams all did worse. Tessa & Scott also only got level 2 on the twizzles, because Tessa only had 2 rotations clean in the reverse direction (2nd set). No wonder V&M's TES was not up to what I expected them to get for what is a very nice program. I particularly liked that they swapped out the lift they did in Quebec for the lift from their 2011 Latin FD (a great lift that we didn't get to see enough of since we only saw that program about 3 times (Canadian Nats, 4CC's & Worlds). I'm thrilled to get a chance to see it again in competition. Zero credit for the twizzles, of course.

    I like Madison & Evan's SD, even if not loving the music so much. Their characters remind me a bit of the ones they used for last year's Cirque SD. Madison as performer, Evan as Stage Door Johnny.

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    Just to remind you guys that tomorrow you should follow the live stream through Yle broadcasting: http://areena.yle.fi/tv/2046700 . You probably cannot watch the event live through the FT main page like you did today! For Sunday the live stream is the following: http://areena.yle.fi/tv/2046705

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    I am surprised at the enthusiasm for the V/M program.

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    This panel is very tough! This is not good for Tessa and Scotts perception as Meryl and Charlie scored six points higher than them at their senior interntional in Salt Lake City.

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    Joke scoring :(

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