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Latin American Future?????

N@d&A

Rinkside
Joined
Jan 14, 2004
HI

I want to ask to you if you think there is is a little bit of future with latin americans sk8ers????

I´m a Mexican sk8er, maybe with not a lot of future but there are so many other girls (mexicans) and boys who maybe could reach good places in future.

MICHELLE CANTU(NL)-Now she is 15 years old but she is in Junior.
MANUEL SEGURA(DF)-He´s in Junior too
EMILY NAPHTAL(NL)
FABIOLA CARBALLO(MEX)
GLADYS OROSCO(NL)

So I want to know what do think about it
do you think we have future in this sport or you not?
 

dlkksk8fan

Medalist
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Hi N@d&a! I know nothing about figure skating in Mexico. Give us some more information about yourself and what type of training that you are doing. The skaters you mentioned, have they competed internationally?

Maybe you could educate us about the future of skating in Latin America.
 

Spark

Rinkside
Joined
Nov 22, 2003
Most of us don't know anything about Mexican skaters. They're never shown on TV in Canada or the United States. I would be interested in seeing them if I could. Skaters from different parts of the world tend to have different styles, so I'd like to see skaters from other countries rising up, because that would give skating more variety.

How advanced are skaters in Mexico now? What jumps can they do? Do they ever go to countries where figure skating is more popular for help, like skaters in China used to do when they first appeared?
 

MasterF

Rinkside
Joined
Aug 24, 2003
Future, yes

Last summer I had the pleasure of seeing one of those North American Challenge Competitions(these are run by Canada and the Usfsa to promote the novice and some Junior talent) at Lake Placid. It was very exciting to see the talent of Mexico. They didn't place well but skated very good. The Mexicans are doing a fine job developing their skaters. I think the interest is not there yet and it will take some time before they can develop a top ten level skater on the wolrd scene. Soccer rules in Mexico as well as the rest of the world, except of course the U.S.
 

N@d&A

Rinkside
Joined
Jan 14, 2004
OK, First I want to apologize about my English I know it is not good at all

Anyway, here in Mexico we don´t have a very high level but I really think that in a couple of years we will.

Not all states have their own rinks we have very few and only the ones in Mexico City are big enough in order to skate better but but in other states we have smaller but at least ice rinks in wich we can practice, we have mexican and many russian coaches and everyone has different ways of training and techniques that unfortunate it is not alwasys the correct one.

That´s why many of us has to travel to another country (U.S, CAN.) in order to improve our level but is very expensive and not all of the talent girls can do it.

All the skaters I mentioned before have compited on Internatinal competitions(JGP, 4 Continents)

Ricardo Olavarrieta is the only Mexican who has been an Olympic competitor (1988, 1992) now he is coach and he works in the ISU as technic specialist (in Alexei Urmanov´s place I guess)
 

Ptichka

Forum translator
Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 28, 2003
Seems like many of them train in the US (some with Zmievskaya). I don't think it's possible to develop a good figure skating school until there is ample opportunity to train at home. Also, I guess FS as a sport develops more in the colder countries, where ice skating is more natural. I am sorry if my post reads somewhat discouragingly -- it's not meant to be.
 

dorispulaski

Wicked Yankee Girl
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Country
United-States
Did not Cantu get at least one 5 in the recent ladies' final of 4cc's?

If I have it right. In any case, all marks in the 4.0's She is quite young, and I certainly think anyone who can get a 5.0, even one in international competition against American, Canadian and Japanese women, when that young, is learning fast and has a future.

dpp
 

berthes ghost

Final Flight
Joined
Jul 30, 2003
Everybody has a future in skating. Look at what the Japanese have been able to do in the past 20 years and what the Chinese have done in the past 10. Anything is possible.
 
Joined
Jul 11, 2003
I remember a few Mexican singles at the DC Worlds. I thought they were scored much lower than they should have been. I have my own theory that many judges are not interested in lower tier skaters unless they do Bielman spins and quads. They tend to mark them without any real thought.:rolleye:

Perhaps, and only perhaps with the CoP, the Mexican skaters may get higher scores which they deserve and any other skaters from Latin America and Carribbean, for that matter. Why not? Remember all you need, N@D&A, is to have one Mexican skater to win gold or be a gold contender which will have the Mexican kids saying: I can do that!:love:

Joe
 

JOHIO2

Medalist
Joined
Jul 29, 2003
Hi NDA,

Glad to have you aboard. And your English is coming along well. The more you use it, the better it will become. Besides, most of us here can't write in another language at all. Much less post where native speakers will read our attempts. I think that shows great courage. Plus it shows that you are working on something most of us will never achieve.

That also applies to skating. Will Mexican and other Latin American competitors reach the top levels? Why not? Overcoming the lack of places to train, best coaches, money, etc. is what the best skaters will do. Someday, maybe soon, we can hope to see excellent skaters from anyplace on the planet.

I also think that training and competing in skating simply because you enjoy it is admirable. Not everyone can be the best but we can at least try. Staying and competing, like the Amber Corwins of the world, shows what kind of person you are - one who persists and continues to try.

Perhaps we could see more cooperation between the USFSA and the Mexican federation? It seems to work well with the US and Canadian federations. I've seen lots of youngsters from Canada competing at the club level here in the north. Why shouldn't we see more Mexican skaters in the southern US competitions?

Keep on skating and keep on posting!
 

Antilles

Medalist
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
I just got back from 4CC's and had the pleasure of seeing the Mexico team skate. I think there is a future for Latin America. I saw some good things from the team. Miguel Angel Moyron had a bad short, but rebounded beautifully in the long. His compatriots were also good. I think the Mexican team was the most loved by all the fans. They are great personalities, and I wish them all luck in the future. N@d&A, could you tell me who are the ladies and mens champs from Mexico?
 

hockeyfan228

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Joesitz said:
I remember a few Mexican singles at the DC Worlds. I thought they were scored much lower than they should have been. I
I agree with Joe. There was another Cantu -- Ana Cecilia -- in DC whom I found delightful in the qualis. Her presentation and interpretation were splendid, and I remember wishing I were casting an ice show, so that I could hire her.

I missed the Men's qualis in DC, but I heard from other people there that Manuel Segura was also fine and undermarked.
 

Tove

On the Ice
Joined
Aug 20, 2003
I haven't seen any mexican skaters since worlds 99, but I know skating is a small sport in Mexico, just like in Norway. In Norway, the federation has finally started taken the sports seriously again, and provides more ice practice time for the atlethes (skaters share the ice with hockey) and it's improving. I truly hope your federation is behind you:) :) and is giving you good conditions:) what is it like?
 

Anke G

Rinkside
Joined
Dec 2, 2003
I think Mexican skaters are already showing improvement. A poster at SkateFans mentioned them very favorably in her reports from the 4Cs competition:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/127912
(scroll to the last paragraph)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/127998
(scroll close to end to read about the standing ovation for Miguel Moyron)

My answer is a resounding yes, there is definitely a chance for Latin American skaters. I hope we see more of them in future competitions.
 

yelyoh

Medalist
Joined
Jul 26, 2003
Country
United-States
Well regarding the Mexican skaters at 4CC, the word on them from those who attended is that they did not do badly. If an 18th place skater can get a standing O he must have something special. Both Michelle Cantu and Miguel Moyron are mid teens. Plenty of time to improve. Based on that, I would say it looks good. Good luck to all the Latin American skaters. You all certainly seem to be winning fans' hearts.
 

JonnyCoop

Record Breaker
Joined
Dec 28, 2003
Michelle Cantu I think has a potentially pretty good future (I say "potentially" because she is so young, and here in the US we have seen so many skaters who were potentially great at 14 or 15 but didn't make it thru 16 or 17, so these days I reserve judgement on futures until they make it to 18!); she certainly has had some impressive results for a country that doesn't have much of a skating background. I think this certainly bodes well for the future at least.

Also, on a related note -- I saw Rocio Salas Visuet skate at the 2001 Worlds. I have to admit when she took the ice I wasn't expecting much -- but she did reel off one of the most beautiful layback spins I've ever seen.

The skating program in Mexico seems to be developing quite well and I think it will be very interesting to see how it will continue to do so. The results are definitely getting better. Mexican skaters seem to be doing as well as the South Africans and the South Koreans, and the South Africans and South Koreans have been at it longer.
 
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