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    Quote Originally Posted by Victura View Post
    As for Daria, there was an article in IFS last summer/fall about Kulik and Gordeeva's new rink that asked about her. I don't have the article on me, but I believe Katia said that she went to college on the East Coast for awhile, but decided to take a break and go back to California and that she had a job. From quite awhile back, Daria gave an interview to her high school newspaper about playing lacrosse and quitting skating. http://articles.dailypilot.com/2009-...acrosse-figure
    In this interview a teenage girl is saying about her mother, "She knows what she wants". I really hope that Daria has found her thing. Since she was in this hard situation of everyone else in the family was running toward his/her own goal with passion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnamon View Post
    In this interview a teenage girl is saying about her mother, "She knows what she wants". I really hope that Daria has found her thing. Since she was in this hard situation of everyone else in the family was running toward his/her own goal with passion.
    Yes, I agree. and I'm sure that although llia has been a good step-father, she must feel very sad and a bit lost without her father in her life growing up and without her paternal grandparents either.

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    CarolLiza_fan, thanks for supplying the adjective for Belarus. I'm old enough to remember the name Byelorussia, and its adjective. I'm glad the new adjective is constructed the same way.

    You make a good point about the fact that that Daria, whether "our" Daria or not, is someone's daughter. I got a feeling of such dissonance from her writing. I am so strongly aware of a deep wound.

    On a nicer note, it's great contemplating Michelle's many tasks and activities. There's something so lovely in watching a young person who's been able to find and maintain her footing out in the world. I'll have to go check out the MK forum. Thanks for the spoonful of sugar after the bitter scent we've been taking in on this thread.

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    Daria is not a public figure. She has not sought or invited our scrutiny. Just saying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    On a nicer note, it's great contemplating Michelle's many tasks and activities. There's something so lovely in watching a young person who's been able to find and maintain her footing out in the world. I'll have to go check out the MK forum. Thanks for the spoonful of sugar after the bitter scent we've been taking in on this thread.
    Saving you a trip , here is what Michelle has been up to just since September 8. (Thanks to poster Teach23 on the Michelle Kwan Forum).

    http://fitness.gov/eat-healthy/usefu...ster-24x30.pdf

    https://twitter.com/UtterDiplomacy/s...485057/photo/1

    https://twitter.com/GSMP2013/status/...173312/photo/1

    https://twitter.com/Gracie_ESPN/stat...331328/photo/1

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/postli...ldhood-obesity

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nichol...b_3868311.html

    http://cms.evildonkey.com/client_fil...rticipants.pdf

    http://espn.go.com/espnw/athletes-li.../michelle-kwan

    Last edited by Mathman; 09-14-2013 at 08:51 PM.

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    Thanks so much, Math! A treasure box of news and tidbits.

    The last link, the ESPN one, had an interesting observation by Michelle. Instead of saying, "I worked extremely hard while I was training for skating," she pointed out that during that time the efforts of everyone, from her coach to her choreographer to her parents, to herself, were concentrated on her. That's an understanding that is unusually healthy for a star athlete to have. I don't imagine I'm going to stop being an MK fan anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    Thanks so much, Math! A treasure box of news and tidbits.

    The last link, the ESPN one, had an interesting observation by Michelle. Instead of saying, "I worked extremely hard while I was training for skating," she pointed out that during that time the efforts of everyone, from her coach to her choreographer to her parents, to herself, were concentrated on her. That's an understanding that is unusually healthy for a star athlete to have. I don't imagine I'm going to stop being an MK fan anytime soon.
    Michelle is such an amazing role model. Just wonderful how well she has done with her life. She got a great education and is doing excellent work on many fronts. LOVE her!

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    One more question about Liza Kulik: when are the Southwest Pacific Regional Championships this year? That will be her qualifying competition for Nationals, as it was last year, where she barely missed qualifying. Thanks in advance to anyone who knows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Daria is not a public figure. She has not sought or invited our scrutiny. Just saying...
    Exactly - she was a child when a family tragedy threw her into it, and rightly or wrongly was exploited (I am not judging Katia in those decisions, however Daria did not make the decision to be a "child star" the media and her family did). She has since taken control of that and is pretty clear in that she's not looking for the spotlight. Good for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsworthgirl View Post
    One more question about Liza Kulik: when are the Southwest Pacific Regional Championships this year? That will be her qualifying competition for Nationals, as it was last year, where she barely missed qualifying. Thanks in advance to anyone who knows!
    SWP regionals are October 19th-22nd in Corona, CA. http://www.usfsa.org/Events.asp?id=491

    And I just looked at last year's results again, and wow Liza had bad luck. Yes, she missed the CR by one placement, but she was 5th in her QR...and had the 5th highest score of all the Juvenile girls. Her score in another group would have pushed her to the CR.

    Watching her skate from last year again makes me want her to make it further next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemistry66 View Post
    SWP regionals are October 19th-22nd in Corona, CA. http://www.usfsa.org/Events.asp?id=491

    And I just looked at last year's results again, and wow Liza had bad luck. Yes, she missed the CR by one placement, but she was 5th in her QR...and had the 5th highest score of all the Juvenile girls. Her score in another group would have pushed her to the CR.

    Watching her skate from last year again makes me want her to make it further next year.
    Ooh me too! Thanks so much for giving the dates- I will be sending loads of good luck and supportive vibes her way! She DESERVES to go on this year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemistry66 View Post
    SWP regionals are October 19th-22nd in Corona, CA. http://www.usfsa.org/Events.asp?id=491

    And I just looked at last year's results again, and wow Liza had bad luck. Yes, she missed the CR by one placement, but she was 5th in her QR...and had the 5th highest score of all the Juvenile girls. Her score in another group would have pushed her to the CR.

    Watching her skate from last year again makes me want her to make it further next year.
    What does CR stand for? If she had been in the top 4, would she have gone on to sectionals?

    Liza competed in the Pasadena Open this past weekend and landed her first double axel there: http://kuliksskating.com/events/pasadena-open.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victura View Post
    Liza competed in the Pasadena Open this past weekend and landed her first double axel there: http://kuliksskating.com/events/pasadena-open.html
    Oh WOW! Just look at those jumps! O.O

    Definitely taking after daddy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victura View Post
    What does CR stand for? If she had been in the top 4, would she have gone on to sectionals?

    Liza competed in the Pasadena Open this past weekend and landed her first double axel there: http://kuliksskating.com/events/pasadena-open.html
    In some of the levels, there's so many girls competing that they have qualifying rounds (QR) and Championship? Rounds (CR). They'll split the skaters into the QR, and then a certain number of skaters in each QR makes the CR, where they compete for the spots to sectionals.

    So, in the SWP regionals last year, there were 4 qualifying rounds in Liza's level. Top 4 from each QR made the Championship Round for a total of 16 girls. Top 4 from the CR went to Sectionals.

    Liza was 5th in her QR and thus didn't progress further. It sucks because she had the 5th highest score of all the Juvenile girls, which is something that makes me not like QR even though I understand it's otherwise hard to organize that many girls into competition segments.

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    You would think it would occur to people that now that skaters get an actual numerical score, they could just use the score from the qualifying round to choose the top qualifiers. This might mean three skaters from one group and seven from the other, but it's better to be fair than symmetrical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    You would think it would occur to people that now that skaters get an actual numerical score, they could just use the score from the qualifying round to choose the top qualifiers. This might mean three skaters from one group and seven from the other, but it's better to be fair than symmetrical.
    I agree 100%.

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