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    Can Yuzuru Hanyu close the gap on Patrick Chan?

    This is Hanyu's new free program, Romeo and Juliet (music by Nino Rota from the 1968 film). Wisely, he has retained the same short program, Parisienne Walkways, which he had so much success with last season

    What Hanyu lacked last season was consistency in his long program. He would regularly skate superb short programs (setting a new world record for the SP), only for it to all to fall apart in the free skate. His problems with asthma have always been a factor in terms of his stamina problems in the free skate, although according to this excellent article, he is now able to train for 3-4 hours a day. Youth and inexperience at the senior level probably also play a part. However, its been asked before, but with the start of a new season, does Hanyu have enough time to close the gap on Chan and overtake him before the 2014 Olympics?

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    think he can. Patrick is presenting Yuzuru (also Fernandez) a stationary target, not having much to show for his experiment with "artistry" last season.

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    I don't think he can. His look is too immature.

    I'm not a huge Patrick fan, and I do think he's vulnerable. Highly vulnerable.

    But I don't think Hanyu's a real threat.

    Of course, my opinion is hardly unbiased. His skating does not suit my eye.

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    I would have to say no.

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    Thank you for the link to the article! This is an excellent article indeed with good summary of his book.

    Another video of his new free program (this is not the real one of course, his debut of new FP is going to be in Finlandia Trophy).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LqbWuTgV-8

    I think he can close the gap on Chan, but at the same time, other skaters also can if they have quads. It just depends on how Chan and they will skate on the night.

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    I'd like to think Hanyu has a chance to dethrone Chan as Yuzuru is currently my favorite skater. I'm not a huge Chan fan, but he has proven time and time again he can win, so I think it'll be tough for anyone else. However, Yuzu has the artistry, musicality and jumps to rival any other top contender, so yes he has the ability to make it very interesting if he skates well. The Nino Rota score plays to his strengths and I'm super excited to see him perform it at Finlandia.

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    Yes, he can. And so can Fernandez, Daisuke and Oda (who's skating very well). Maybe can include Kozuka and Abbot (depending on how they skate and their quads in the coming grand prix season). Not forgetting Plushenko and Evans too if they return to competition. All these skaters have beaten Patrick before. And I am a Patrick fan.

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    Not this season. I'm disappointed that he's recycling his programs, BTW. I expected something new this season.

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    I dont think Chan is the favourite - look for Javier Fernandez, Takahashi and Hanyu to be the faves. Chan has not grown as a skater artistically or technically and going back to Four Seasons and no real coach - yikes.

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    Well Patrick isn't really known for being so consistent either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    I dont think Chan is the favourite - look for Javier Fernandez, Takahashi and Hanyu to be the faves. Chan has not grown as a skater artistically or technically and going back to Four Seasons and no real coach - yikes.
    Daisuke is struggling with jumps too. He isn't in better state than PC.

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    Hanyu is certainly capable of overtaking Chan. Technically I am far less nervous watching Hanyu execute a triple axel versus Chan. Artistically Hanyu is still young so a bit more refinement in his presentation along with consistency should make for an interesting showdown in Sochi should he skate clean in both programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCSkate_fan View Post
    Hanyu is certainly capable of overtaking Chan. Technically I am far less nervous watching Hanyu execute a triple axel versus Chan. Artistically Hanyu is still young so a bit more refinement in his presentation along with consistency should make for an interesting showdown in Sochi should he skate clean in both programs.
    Hanyu has the most consistent triple axel. I would trust him to land a 3A (and with +GOE) more than anyone in the men's field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao88 View Post
    This is Hanyu's new free program, Romeo and Juliet (music by Nino Rota from the 1968 film). Wisely, he has retained the same short program, Parisienne Walkways, which he had so much success with last season

    What Hanyu lacked last season was consistency in his long program. He would regularly skate superb short programs (setting a new world record for the SP), only for it to all to fall apart in the free skate. His problems with asthma have always been a factor in terms of his stamina problems in the free skate, although according to this excellent article, he is now able to train for 3-4 hours a day. Youth and inexperience at the senior level probably also play a part. However, its been asked before, but with the start of a new season, does Hanyu have enough time to close the gap on Chan and overtake him before the 2014 Olympics?
    I hope *anyone* beats Chan to win the gold. Preferably D10 or Dai, but I would be happy to see Hanyu do it.

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    If GOE is objective, then PCS must be objective as well, it's the same judges after all right? So this means that I can start believing that Yuzuru's skating skills ARE actually better than Kozuka's. Right.

    Or that Yuzuru's 3A-2T in the free is actually not so special after all, since Skate Canada's judges seemed to think it warranted a meager +0.57 GOE. No matter that commentators have been raving about it and fellow skater Jeremy Ten went so far as to describe it as 'godly'.

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