You bash Chan and spew crap about skaters more than anyone on here except maybe sky_fly. Made for each other, really. To say I spew hate and unbiased opinions is not only incorrect but epitomizes your shameless hypocrisy, and telling me to get a life is just juvenile (not that I expect any better of you).
For the record I have repeatedly said I disagree with Chan's 2013 win, so while I'm busy getting a life, I'd recommend you get your facts (and head) straight.
Wow! The world has turned upside down. How did Hanyu beat a clean Chan in the LP?!
The results at the GPF don't mean anything for Olympic results. Patrick is consistent, he has been this year. He hasn't fully peaked. I think Patrick still is the favourite, I like Hanyu but he is still new. Don't get too excited by Hanyu beating Chan, it's just one competition. I don't think Chan has stagnated, he will go back and look at what went wrong. After all. Shizuka Arakawa did not even quality for the GPF and she won the OGM in Torino. I think Chan will be tough to beat. One off competition does not mean they've peaked too soon. As for the others mentioned, I don't think Fernandez is a favourite to win, he hasn't skated well this year. Maybe for bronze. I think the Japanese men are the biggest threat. The question is can Hanyu stand up under the pressure of the Olympics.
^^^ I am disappointed for Fernandez. He really didn't skate well in the GP. He has a lot of talent and I hope he got back to hard work after GP. Not too late. I hope he wins the Euros. He's such a sweetie and funny.
As I said, Hanyuflation has taken over. It has always been there since Hanyu and Chan and Daisuke have won skates with falls. But this time, Hanyuflation has taken over at long last so I hope those people who profess they dislike seeing skaters win with falls should now use the appropriate term, HANYUflation.Originally Posted by Krislite
I think the more pertinent question is CAN Hanyu close the gap on Chan. He CAN, but WILL he at the Olympics? Can Hanyu handle the pressure. The judging at the Olympics won't be the same judges here. NEVER count your chickens at the Olympics. Anything can happen.
I think Hanyu will win Olympic Gold and mow Daisuke in Japan Nationals. Hanyu has now the honour, and in Pangtongfan's words "fall few times and win". I am glad that my favourite skater, Chan, has lost the honour to Hanyu, a worthy opponent.
Having a high base value helps Hanyu with closing the gap on Chan. The question now is how will the judges score his PCS outside of Japan now that they basically labelled him as a "potential" rival for Chan since Hanyu doesn't really skate all that well most of the time. Will he start getting high 80s to low 90s when he skates well or will it go back to mid 80s?
SquishyDumpling (I like your name so cute), I am referring to Pangtongfan's constant calling that 'Chan wins with falls' and home inflation conspiracy theories even though detailed explanation like yours above were given to explain the win. Now I want to see how PTF will call the game since Hanyu won the LP with a fall over Chan's LP without a fall. Nothing personal against Hanyu, my dear. Just that the same rule should apply to all but not selectively.
OK, can we stop with this now. We are here to discus skating, not each other.
The issue isn't that Chan wins with one fall, the issue is his winning with MULTIPLE falls (For the record no issue with Chan's worlds win in 2012 although I wouldn't have given him the free.
At the end of the day Hanyu didn't win the free because of PCS, he won due to TES which makes it more legit.
I think the judges welcome a good rivalry. There were many times when I thought Irina S had inflated marks just to keep her close to her rival Michelle. As others have said, Hanyu can be hot or cold so there hasn't been much of a rivalry at the big events but if he skates in Sochi like he did here, he will be scored close to Chan.
I just watched the men's competition for the first time in literally years, and not having any idea who these guys were, this guy Hanyu blew me away. Like jaw on the floor blown away. His jumps are seriously gravity defying (way better than Chan's in terms of height and distance). His speed is amazing, like he's flying across the ice. He has great artistry and fire. Wonderful flexibility as well. Given the same amount of technical elements successfully completed by both skaters, I don't see how Hanyu DOESN'T win the Olympics, unless there is some major injustice. This guy is the best men's skater I've seen since Yagudin. Like Yagudin, he actually makes me want to watch men's skating, lol. I'm still trying to process what I just saw. Wow.