Lazy and unmotivated are two words i would never associate with Meryl and Charlie.
About seeing D/W live: they are incredible live. The speed, the precision, the energy--just unbelievable. At the Nationals in Omaha I was determined to take lots of pictures of ice dance, and with the high speed burst in my camera did indeed get some terrific pictures--except of Meryl and Charlie. They were simply too fast. All I got was a blurry image of Charlie's back and Meryl's face as they approached, and the next frame had nothing but a few strands of Meryl's hair as they had zoomed by From now on I won't even bother trying; I'll just sit back and enjoy the performance instead
Thanks for changing the title of this thread.
I think everything that D/W has done in the past 4 seasons is Gold worthy. Meryl and Charlie certainly don't rest on their laurels, they are still hungry. IMO Meryl and Charlie are going to be the team to beat at Sochi for Gold.
Crown them king and queen. Virtue and Moir will be a distant silver it would appear. But I do not think they or Evan are he hardest workers - there are a lot not just them.
D&W's hard work is evident. Their hard work paid off, and they're smart workers. Some skaters can work hard till the moon comes to their doorstep, but you won't see that much improvement in their skating compared to D&W.
First, Evan is perhaps the best at working the system - very smart. From getting a reknowned choreographer to try to make him look like an artist on ice, to get a well known designer and the list goes on - very smart. Arguably a different scoring system even with Brian Orser's errors in Calgary he may have beaten Boitano but reagardless Boitano was smart and milked the system and made himself appear like a champion - this is not innnate like Chan, Kim or D and W. My world of justice would see D and W rewarded for techno abilities but deducted somewhere for such safe music choices and a limited rane - though d and w fans will not like this. Their tango or things with extreme passion don't come off of them very well theatrically or genuine. Give them Disney love and that is their strength. They are disney skaters. Meryl the princess and Charlie the prince.
I'm frankly so tired of the "Evan works harder than anyone else" mantra. How does Frank or anyone else know what the other skaters do or don't do? For starters: on-ice training is not the only training the skaters do, so spending six hours on the ice (which doesn't sounds smart, to be honest) may be another skater's 3-4 hrs on the ice plus 2-3 hrs of whatever off-ice conditioning they do. This is not to say Evan or D/W are not hard workers--but every single skater who has reached the podium in the Worlds, or even Nationals in countries with many top level skaters--has worked extremely hard. There may be years when life throws a curve ball at an athlete--they may struggle with a changing body, or have personal problems and thus lose some focus and motivation. Athletes are human, after all. If they come back an reach the podium again a year or two later, however, you can bet they've worked their butt off to get there! So please, can we just agree that the top skaters all work very, very hard?
End of rant. And go Meryl and Charlie!
I don't think anyone here has said that elite skaters are lazy. That is an oxymoron. Elite and lazy don't go together. Just some do stand out more than others and that some people's work ethic have garnered more success than others. If you want to help your favorite skaters do well, then it's worth trying to identify the elements that led to their success. Even skaters known to have skewed work ethic such as Bowman, Bobek, Baiul, etc. still worked much harder than the average person in their peak years. However, their level still wasn't enough to stay at the top. There are competitors who are hungrier and will work harder than hard.
I remember reading Domnina and Shabalin's diary somewhere years ago. Hours on the ice, hours on choreography on the floor, hours on conditioning. But their results? Mixed, 2 Euro Champs, 1 World, Olympic bronze... they had the momentum to win OGM at one point, but Shabs' injury, their inevitable decreased training, and horrid Linichuk programs destroyed their chances. They had the goods but couldn't keep it up. So I don't think they're an example of worker smarter, not harder.
D&W is worker smarter, work harder. And it shows.
PLEASE - Can we leave Evan's work ethic out of this thread? PRETTY PLEASE??!!
I don't think there are any "lazy" skaters who are serious competitive athletes. By the time one gets to Junior, the ones who are not serious, are not willing to put in the time, don't make good use of their time tend to get weeded out. Lazy doesn't apply to D/W, V/M, or any other serious skaters.
I do think that D/W are more interested in the athletics of the sport and therefore are more strategic about their program choices. It's not about being "cutting edge" or "making a name with ground breaking programs", or even making sure there are radically new elements and choreography. It's about the medals. And COP today does not reward innovation as much as it should in my opinion, or new choreography, or new elements year over year, etc. V/M are more interested in how they are shaping the sport of ice dance, and therefore are making vastly different choices....especially the last couple of years. This culminated in the very unique and impressive piece of art and sport that was Carmen last year. But again, COP didn't reward their innovation and supreme quality of dance. If one compares the results of the 2 approaches, clearly the reward is not to push the sport, but to keep the status quo. I'm sure, in this Olympic year, we will see something much more mainstream from V/M because medals matter a little more to them this year, although I'm guessing it will still have their unique twist. Because the judges have been either too lazy or uneducated to really use GOE and especially PCS to distinguish these things, and both teams get pretty much the same PCS, there is no incentive for D/W to take any risks. That doesn't make them lazy. It makes them strategic. They are laser focused on their goals.