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    New Stars born - season 2013/2014

    I do't mean well-known at national level skaters (or couples) like Medvedeva or Edmunds, who just had first Internationals and show there their known high level.
    I mean skaters/couples, who at Internationals show significantly better performance than might be waited from them.

    I believe New Stars are:

    Adian PITKEEV from Russia - Junior Men.
    Wenbo ZANG from China - Junior Men.

    Veronik MALLET from Canada - Senior Ladies.
    Riona KATO from Japan - Junior Ladies.
    Madelyn DUNLEY from Canada - Junior Ladies.

    Ksenia MONKO / Kirill KHALIAVIN from Russia - Senior Ice Dance ("semi-new", they were good at WTT).
    Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD from Russia - Junior Ice Dance.

    Who else?

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    Brooklee Han Australia
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    I would rule out M&K because they were World Junior champions, as well as doing well at WTT. They belong more in a comeback kids thread, along with Nobunari Oda. If you wanted to include them, then you should also include Jason Brown.


    Definitely Verinca Mallet CAN in singles. Definitely Loboda & DrozdRUS in dance.

    Possibly Ashley Cain USA in ladies singles, if you don't count her former pairs career.

    I'd also include Agafonova & Ucar of Turkey in dance.

    Possibly in pairs Ruben Blommaert & Annabelle Prölß GER who did well at Nebelhorn as seniors.

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    too early to tell for seniors

    for juniors

    men:
    Adian Pitkeev
    Alexander Petrov

    ladies:
    Medvedeva
    Chen
    Edmunds
    Proklova
    Sotskova

    Ice Dance
    Mcnamara/Carpenter
    Kim/Minov
    Nazarova/Nikitin - big breakthrough season

    Pairs
    Vigalova/Zakroev

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    I'm hoping to see more of Ashley Cain. I love her look on the ice. Hopefully her jumps will become stronger. Jason Brown already had a lot of buzz, all well deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Brooklee Han Australia
    Junior & Senior Ladies
    I disagree.
    About the same level that was at past season. She may be New Star of 2012/2013 season, not 2013/2014.
    I remember her very well at Worlds-2013.

    At Juniors in Mexico JGP Event she was 8th with score 119.98 - very bad result for her.

    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I would rule out M&K because they were World Junior champions, as well as doing well at WTT. They belong more in a comeback kids thread, along with Nobunari Oda.
    May be.

    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    If you wanted to include them, then you should also include Jason Brown.
    Jason Brown for now did not show anything significantly better than at past season. May be, later at the season.

    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Possibly Ashley Cain USA in ladies singles, if you don't count her former pairs career.
    Also as for Jason Brown I don't see anything significantly better than past season. Or even 2011/2012 when she was 2nd at JrNats.

    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'd also include Agafonova & Ucar of Turkey in dance.

    Possibly in pairs Ruben Blommaert & Annabelle Prölß GER who did well at Nebelhorn as seniors.
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    ladies:
    Medvedeva
    Chen
    Edmunds
    Proklova
    Sotskova

    Pairs
    Vigalova/Zakroev
    They all are well known at national level, Vigalova/Zakroev also at international.
    Some progress - yes, but not new stars.
    May be, excluding Proklova - her progress is better than "some".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jennyanydots View Post
    I'm hoping to see more of Ashley Cain. I love her look on the ice. Hopefully her jumps will become stronger.
    At Nebelhorn - three URs and a fall (in SP+FS), in FS no 3+3 combo and 6 triples.
    Let us see more her competition to solve.

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    Haweyek (sp?) and Baker really do look lovely to me. Angelica and Carmelengo are doing wonderful things with their teams. WOW!

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    Haven't M/K been on the scene internationally now for almost 8 years? Didn't they compete for like 5 years in the Junior Grand Prix? At least 4. I knew they had to sit out one fall because he was ill but they are not that "new"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Jason Brown for now did not show anything significantly better than at past season. May be, later at the season.
    How do you define "showing anything significantly better?" Do you mean as far as his ISU personal best?

    His SP, for one is a LOT better. He totally reworked the choreography and is performing it with a lot more sass and bravado.
    Here's his SP from his first JGP event last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to4kYooOlLo
    Here's the same SP from Nebelhorn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMl0L-8YyE

    He beat his PB by nearly 10 points in the SP, I'd said that is significantly better. Even if you want to argue that is an inflated "Senior B" score (which counts nonetheless due to the event being an Olympic qualifier), he likely still beat his PB in the SP by several points.

    And his Riverdance FS is definitely more complex, choreography wise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sbqeEphfAw

    Can he improve? Certainly! But I think he's already shown quite a bit improvement from last season. And I definitely think a lot of people took notice of him because of that program! I've seen a lot of posts on GS/FSU that are like "Jason's my new favorite" or "This is impressive" or whatever.

    ETA: I realize that you can also interpret the thread (as you probably have) to refer to people who have done more than they were expected to do or take it to the next level. I guess Jason has always skated at a high level, even when he didn't have a 3A, so I suppose he wouldn't count as a "new star" for that reason.
    Last edited by Mrs. P; 10-01-2013 at 10:48 PM. Reason: Working SP link

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    They aren't new, but I for one enjoyed the comeback of Maylin & Daniel Wende. The LP is awesome (even though it was already used in 2011-12, IIRC).

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    I suppose it all depends on what is new to you, and what is a star to you. For me, it is the moment I first really believed that a skater had the possibility of making a successful transition to seniors. For me, for the ladies, I never put any credence in them until they hit seniors. I enjoy their junior performances, but don't wish to give them my heart until they have finished growing.

    So a breakthrough is when someone makes me sit up and take notice. Frankly, I did not expect Ashley Cain to medal at Nebelhorn, and I have been ignoring her in Juniors, so I noticed (actually, I noticed her at Liberty this summer-while she was not doing more & better jumps, her speed & flow was so much improved)

    Likewise for Brooklee-given her low placing at her last JGP, I was surprised that she finished 5th at Nebelhorn, and skated her best there, so I noticed.

    ALthough I follow the juniors, (particularly dance, pairs & men), a lot of people don't, so when a junior (like Ashley Cain) has a fairly successful senior debut, I'd count it. I wouldn't count Jason because he is one of those skaters people noticed, and commented on even when he was a junior, but in the sense of a successful senior debut, he also had one, particularly with a ten point bump in his SP personal best.

    I expected Hawayek & Baker and McNamara & Carpenter to do well, based on noticing them last year, so I didn't count them.

    The Turks on the other hand, really stepped it up a notch now that they are with Zhulin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Brooklee Han Australia
    Junior & Senior Ladies

    I would rule out M&K because they were World Junior champions, as well as doing well at WTT. They belong more in a comeback kids thread, along with Nobunari Oda. If you wanted to include them, then you should also include Jason Brown.


    Definitely Verinca Mallet CAN in singles. Definitely Loboda & DrozdRUS in dance.

    Possibly Ashley Cain USA in ladies singles, if you don't count her former pairs career.

    I'd also include Agafonova & Ucar of Turkey in dance.

    Possibly in pairs Ruben Blommaert & Annabelle Prölß GER who did well at Nebelhorn as seniors.
    ITA with your choices Han was excellent at the Nebelhorn trophy and also landed a 3lz which I didn't see from her last season. Cains short at nebelhorn was a surprise to me when she landed that 3f+3t, she barely had a 3f or lz last season, she has really improved, I am very impressed.
    I am not impressed by this years slew of young Russian ladies, yes their triple triples are great, but we see this season after season, if they are still doing 3-3s like that when they are 16/17 I will be impressed...

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