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    Free Dance JGP Czech Skate 2013

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    Warm-Up Group 1
    1 Anna BOLSHEM / Ronald ZILBERBERG ISR 13 38.61
    2 Natalia KALISZEK / Yaroslav KURBAKOV POL 14 34.38
    3 Christine SMITH / Simon EISENBAUER AUT 15 34.32
    4 Sarah VADSKJAER GRAPEK / Malcolm JONES DEN 16 32.72

    Warm-Up Group 2
    5 Olivia SMART / Joseph BUCKLAND GBR 9 46.33
    6 Katerina KONICKOVA / Matej LANG CZE 11 41.21
    7 Chloe LEWIS / Logan BYE USA 12 41.16
    8 Cortney MANSOUR / Michal CESKA CZE 10 44.61

    Warm-Up Group 3
    9 Danielle WU / Spencer SOO CAN 5 51.68
    10 Ria SCHIFFNER / Julian SALATZKI GER 8 47.35
    11 Daria KOROTITSKAIA / Maksim SPODIREV UKR 6 49.30
    12 Carolina MOSCHENI / Adam LUKACS HUN 7 48.19

    Warm-Up Group 4
    13 Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN RUS 3 53.74
    14 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 1 59.54
    15 Betina POPOVA / Yuri VLASENKO RUS 4 53.48
    16 Madeline EDWARDS / Zhao Kai PANG CAN 2 54.10

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    Whoa the parsons levels were terrible. Why happened? That's coaching malpractice! Or who was injured? Really terrible levels of shocking poorness.

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    FD results:

    1 Betina POPOVA / Yuri VLASENKO RUS 81.68 41.92 39.76 6.50 6.46 6.79 6.71 6.82 0.00 #15
    2 Madeline EDWARDS / Zhao Kai PANG CAN 79.29 37.59 42.70 7.07 6.96 7.29 7.21 7.18 1.00 #16
    3 Carolina MOSCHENI / Adam LUKACS HUN 76.26 39.23 37.03 6.11 5.96 6.25 6.32 6.39 0.00 #12
    4 Danielle WU / Spencer SOO CAN 76.10 40.95 35.15 5.82 5.68 5.96 6.04 5.93 0.00 #9
    5 Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN RUS 76.08 38.15 37.93 6.39 6.21 6.36 6.39 6.32 0.00 #13
    6 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 75.19 33.94 41.25 6.93 6.75 6.96 6.96 6.86 0.00 #14
    7 Olivia SMART / Joseph BUCKLAND GBR 71.16 37.37 33.79 5.68 5.43 5.61 5.79 5.79 0.00 #5
    8 Ria SCHIFFNER / Julian SALATZKI GER 69.03 34.75 34.28 5.71 5.57 5.82 5.82 5.75 0.00 #10
    9 Cortney MANSOUR / Michal CESKA CZE 68.42 35.61 32.81 5.61 5.32 5.57 5.46 5.46 0.00 #8
    10 Daria KOROTITSKAIA / Maksim SPODIREV UKR 67.37 32.54 34.83 5.82 5.64 5.93 5.93 5.82 0.00 #11
    11 Chloe LEWIS / Logan BYE USA 61.93 29.26 32.67 5.21 5.21 5.61 5.68 5.75 0.00 #7
    12 Natalia KALISZEK / Yaroslav KURBAKOV POL 59.42 29.29 30.13 5.18 4.86 4.93 5.32 4.89 0.00 #2
    13 Anna BOLSHEM / Ronald ZILBERBERG ISR 59.09 29.42 29.67 5.04 4.82 4.89 5.11 4.93 0.00 #1
    14 Christine SMITH / Simon EISENBAUER AUT 51.18 26.49 24.69 4.18 4.04 4.14 4.29 3.96 0.00 #3
    15 Katerina KONICKOVA / Matej LANG CZE 50.32 22.86 27.46 4.75 4.50 4.46 4.64 4.54 0.00 #6
    16 Sarah VADSKJAER GRAPEK / Malcolm JONES DEN 44.42 21.15 23.27 3.96 3.79 3.86 4.04 3.79 0.00 #4

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    P/P one of the disadvanatges of similar height, disaster FD
    these two have no future together same goes for Hawayek/Baker

    looks like P/V Spartacus FD is a hit

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    P/P are able to get the results they do by their ability to get high levels on the pattern dances and then when you come out of the short with the lead or in podium contention, you typically get judges higher PCS which helps keep you propped up. Their PCS really helped keep them on podium in this competition as they had around 10th spot in TES and 2nd spot in PCS. They are the only team this year to get two level 4 on their quicksteps in both their JGP. TWo level 4 QS gets you 14 points. Two level 1 QS gets you 6 points -big range to split up the teams. I think Baker has to go Senior next year.

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    To be honest, I find the Parsons really boring. Presentation wise, they're nowhere close to where Hawayek/Baker or McNamara/Carpenter are. They're not very expressive and don't really connect with the audience. The drippy music doesn't help, either.

    I love Edwards/Pang and I love Les Mis, but I'm not yet sold on this dance. I did like it better than in Mexico. I love this team - so expressive with great edges, but they really have to stop giving points away with stumbles and low levels. I was really hoping they'd make the JGPF this year.

    Popova/Vlasenko skated a strong technical performance and were fast. I find her warm and engaging in terms of presentation. They are rough around the edges compared to Edwards/Pang, but they had some fun moments in their dance (love the choreographic lift). Congrats on making the final!

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    so JGPF line up are ?

    1 Mcnamara/ Carpenter
    2 Hawayek/Baker
    3 Popova/Vlasenko
    4 Parsons ?
    then Yanovskaya/Mozgov and Nazarova/Nikitin ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skatie View Post
    P/P are able to get the results they do by their ability to get high levels on the pattern dances and then when you come out of the short with the lead or in podium contention, you typically get judges higher PCS which helps keep you propped up. Their PCS really helped keep them on podium in this competition as they had around 10th spot in TES and 2nd spot in PCS. They are the only team this year to get two level 4 on their quicksteps in both their JGP. TWo level 4 QS gets you 14 points. Two level 1 QS gets you 6 points -big range to split up the teams. I think Baker has to go Senior next year.
    the lost of levels is also attributed to the similar height
    they are a hit or miss, same for other same height couples losing levels like Hawayek/Baker and Bent/Mckeen

    this type of dancers have no future in senior, maybe with new partners

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    so JGPF line up are ?
    As of right now:
    Hawayek/Baker - 30 (2 golds; 281.29)
    McNamara/Carpenter - 28 (1 gold; 1 silver; 265.40)
    Popova/Vlasenko - 28 (1 gold; 1 silver; 263.87)
    Parsons/Parsons - 26 (2 silvers; 265.83)
    Edwards/Pang - 24 (1 silver, 1 bronze; 267.41)
    Loboda/Drozd - 22 (two bronze; 260.54)

    Competing in Estonia:
    Yanovskaya/Mozgov -15 (143.39)
    Nazarova/Nikitin - 13 (135.22)
    Marozova/Zhirnov- 11 (128.64)
    Moore/Klaber - 11 (123.91)

    Loboda/Drozd will likely get cut.
    Yanovskaya/Mozgov will be safe with a top 4 finish due to their first place placement. They will likely win however.
    Nazarova/Niktin is safe with a second silver medal and should surpass the Parsons for No. 4 spot based on total score. If they get bronze, then they will have to beat Edward/Pang's sore.
    Moore/Klaber or Marozova/Shirnov are outside shots: THey will need to get at least a silver and score higher than Edwards/Pang and Nazarova/Niktin (if they get bronze) for a spot.

    But I think Edward/Pang should be able to hold on for a JGPF berth.

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    I love Edwards/Pang, but I think it's more likely they will be alternates.

    Currently, the following teams are qualified:

    1 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 30 (15+15) 281.29
    2 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 28 (13+15) 265.40
    3 Betina POPOVA / Yur iVLASENKO RUS 2 2 (13+15) 263.87

    If Nazarova/Nikitin & Yanovskaya/Mozgov finish 1-2 in either order (which is likely), then they both qualify, as do the Parsons. Therefore the field would be:

    1 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 30 (15+15) 281.29
    2 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 28 (13+15) 265.40
    3 Betina POPOVA / Yur iVLASENKO RUS 2 2 (13+15) 263.87
    4 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Sergey MOZGOV RUS 30 or 28 points
    5 Alexandra NAZAROVA/Maxim NIKITIN UKR 28 or 26 points
    6 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 13 + 13 = 26 (265.83)

    With Edwards/Pang as first alternates with 24 points (13+11).

    If Morozova/Zhirnov or Moore/Klaber win, Nazarova/Nikitin are second with a score of 130.12 or more (their PB is 135.22) and Yanovskaya/Mozgov are third, then the Parsons are out. The qualifiers would then be:

    1 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 30 (15+15)
    2 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 28 (13+15)
    3 Betina POPOVA / Yuri VLASENKO RUS 28 (13+15)
    4 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Sergey MOZGOV RUS 26 (15+11)
    5 Daria MOROZOVA / Mikhail ZHIRNOV RUS OR Holly MOORE / Daniel KLABER USA 26 (11+15)
    6 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 26 (13+13)

    and the Parsons would be 1st alternates and Edwards/Pang 2nd alternates.

    The best hope for Edwards/Pang is for Yanovskaya/Mozgov to win, and for one of Moore/Klaber or Morozova/Zhirnov to finish second and Nazarova/Nikitin 3rd. Then the last qualifier would be whoever has the best total score between Moore/Klaber, Morozova/Zhirnov, Nazarova/Nikitin or Edwards/Pang. Edwards/Pang current total score is 267.41. For Edwards/Pang to make it to the final in this scenario, the following teams would have to score:

    Nazarova/Nikitin: 132.18 or less (current PB: 135.22)
    Morozova/Zhirnov: 138.76 or less (current PB: 128.64)
    Moore/Klaber: 143.40 or less (current PB: 123.91)

    So it would be difficult even then, but they'd be the 6th qualifiers behind Yanovskaya/Mozgov, Hawayek/Brubaker, Popova/Vlasenko, McNamara/Carpenter & Parsons/Parsons.

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    Anna BOLSHEM/Ronald ZILBERBERG (ISR):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypaAw6-xo8
    Natalia KALISZEK/Yaroslav KURBAKOV (POL):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt004vR-iLs
    Christine SMITH/Simon EISENBAUER (AUT):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6tuN_2Rj_w
    Sarah VADSKJAER GRAPEK/Malcom JONES (DEN):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMYgzry9MWU
    Olivia SMART/Joseph BUCKLAND (GBR):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wrn2yfPCI
    Katerina KONICKOVA/Matej LANG (CZE):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emw3T3Z9c38
    Chloe LEWIS/Logan BYE (USA):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxY34xm2jsM
    Cortney MANSOUR/Michal CESKA (CZE):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYdcDWSJkpU
    Danielle WU/Spenser SOO (CAN):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7lXqbIZQHY
    Ria SCHIFFNER/Julian SALATZKI (GER):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlaISJJA49U
    Daria KOROTITSKAIA/Maksim SPODRIEV (UKR):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1u_zFSMVi4
    Carolina MOSCHENI/Adam LUKACS (HUN):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_VkWekK7MA
    Sofia EVDOKIMOVA/Egor BAZIN (RUS):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LSl61AOIWA
    Rachel PARSONS/Michael PARSONS (USA):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyc3SZ68Cyo
    Betina POPOVA/Yuri VLASENKO (RUS):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUViywBJXxA
    Madeline EDWARDS/Zhao Kai PANG (CAN):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mIEqGT4eh0

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