2013 Skate America Men Free Skating

FSGMT · Oct 20, 2013

golden411 said:
As I hope you know, the rankings that determine who qualifies for the GPF are based on PLACEMENTS, not scores.

The score itself would not come into play unless as a tiebreaker. Given that Takahashi placed fourth, that possibility seems unlikely, IMHO.

That said, I am a strong believer in: "Never say never."

(Note: Skate America medalists Max Aaron and Adam Rippon, as well as Fernandez, will compete at NHK -- so Takahashi will have his work cut out for him just to get on the podium.)

I was obviously referring to the tie-breakers!!

For example, if he wins silver at NHK and Rippon places fourth there, the points will be important (just an example, not a prediction)...

Mao88 · Oct 20, 2013

MEN'S FREE SKATE - RESULT & VIDEOS

1. Tatsuki MACHIDA (JPN) - 265.38 Free Skate
2. Adam RIPPON (USA) - 241.24
3. Max AARON (USA) - 238.36
4. Daisuke TAKAHASHI (JPN) - 236.21 Free Skate
5. Jason BROWN (USA) - 231.03
6. Takahiko KOZUKA (JPN) - 230.95 Free Skate
7. Alexander MAJOROV (SWE) - 208.72
8. Artur GACHINSKI (RUS) - 208.16

ice coverage · Oct 20, 2013

FSGMT said:
I was obviously referring to the tie-breakers!! For example, if he wins silver at NHK and Rippon places fourth there, the points will be important (just an example, not a prediction)...

All good, FSGMT.

Apologies that it was not obvious to me that you were referring to tiebreakers. (To me, your original emphasis on a Takahashi win + huge score over Fernandez is a far different hypothetical example from Takahashi and Rippon switching placements at NHK.)

sweetskates1 · Oct 20, 2013

Adam's 4Lutz will be there soon I hope! and he was the best for me last night!! I am so thrilled for him!

Mathman · Oct 20, 2013

Jason Brown or Ulrich Salchow?

http://patinajul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/ulrichsalchow1.jpg

museksk8r · Oct 20, 2013

sweetskates1 said:
Adam's 4S will be there soon I hope! and he was the best for me last night!! I am so thrilled for him!

Rippon is attempting a 4Lutz, not a Salchow. I'm thrilled for him too! :love:

sweetskates1 · Oct 20, 2013

ooops thank you for correction museksk8r!! that is what I meant to type, will now edit.

museksk8r said:
Rippon is attempting a 4Lutz, not a Salchow. I'm thrilled for him too!

Skater Boy · Oct 20, 2013

Some comments it is exciting yet kind of sad in some ways that it appears men's skating is going t be so close and really up to the skater who skates on the day. I have to say it is apparent Dai and Chan imho are far above the field in pcs or should be. Then you have have Hanyu and a bit of a break to machida, Kozuka, Fernandez, Ten et al and a brek to say Reynolds and Aaron. machida, rippon and aaron,our medalists have not yet shown that they are able to skate and meda l consistently so we will see - maybe Rippon is having a break through year or it could be a fluke - we will see that quad lutz is key- Though it doesn't matter for medals I dohate to think the main reason one is competitive is due to one or two tricks. Rippon is good but sadly the 4 lutz even attempt is a huge reason he is in contention. Look at how "badly" dai skated and he is still up there - the all around skater is rare. I like Adam, I do think he should stop playing aroundhis hair lol but I am not convinced he is the type of medallist I would like to see at oly. But he is not bad certainly artistically.

sky_fly20 · Oct 20, 2013

Dai going to Morozov was a huge mistake
he wont even make the GPF ? he has to watch now Hanyu, Oda, Machida, maybe Kozuka, Mura and Murakami too

Gachinski is a joke
his so called comeback if this it ? is below mediocre at best

ks777 · Oct 20, 2013

Jason Brown or Sue Heck?
http://thechronicleherald.ca/artslife/415366-star-of-the-middle-wears-braces-for-the-heck-of-it

Srin Odessa · Oct 20, 2013

Mathman said:
http://patinajul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/ulrichsalchow1.jpg

He could be a Keanu Reeves type of vampire. I like to imagine a parallel universe where Jason Brown invented the Salchow jump. So it would be said that someone 'performed a triple Brown with a double toe.' It comes off as really dirty.

Jaana · Oct 20, 2013

I think that Takahashi is taking things slowly this season and his peaking will be at the Nationals and Olympics. I liked his freeskate and it will get better and better as the season goes forward.

Aaron´s programme was concentrating on jumping and footwork, transitions very few. Machida was great and I liked his costume. It was great that Rippon has become stronger, I did not expect it.

Our broadcast commentator in this event has been Susanna Poykio and I really enjoyed her way to comment and her thoughts. She was really good!!! Hopefully she will continue during the whole GP.

Mrs. P · Oct 20, 2013

Hey guys, I finally got around to breaking down the protocals on my Nate Silver-ing thread: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sh...te-America-MEN&p=775410&viewfull=1#post775410

Enjoy.

Icey · Oct 20, 2013

karne said:
I think the general rule of thumb is, no medal, no GPF.

My immediate thought after watching Max's long program: Everyone stop complaining about Jason's hair. And go wield the scissors at Max!

No rule that we can't complain about both.

Icey · Oct 20, 2013

ks777 said:
Jason Brown or Sue Heck?
http://thechronicleherald.ca/artslife/415366-star-of-the-middle-wears-braces-for-the-heck-of-it

He ought to do a guest appearance on the show as her long lost twin brother lol. I'll leave it up to the show to find a way to explain that.

mskater93 · Oct 20, 2013

sweetskates1 said:
Adam's 4Lutz will be there soon I hope! and he was the best for me last night!! I am so thrilled for him!

It was pretty clear that he at least has it in practice - he didn't stalk it or back down.

ice coverage · Oct 20, 2013

Srin Odessa said:
It's possible depending on how the points add up for the other top men. In the 2009-2010 season, Johnny Weir managed to make finals with a 4th place and a silver medal. It was a season where half the finalists, including Daisuke, were off podium one event but rallied to medal at the other event.

Forgot to thank Srin earlier. :bow:

I did not know about Weir's situation. Good example re: "Never say never."

wonderlen3000 · Oct 20, 2013

FSGMT said:
Unless he wins NHk with a HUGE score (and there's Fernandez there), probably no

I think most he can salvage is bronze there. He can't compete in TES content with Hanyu and Fernanadez, and their PCS are catching up.

Mao88 · Oct 20, 2013

MEN'S FREE SKATE - RESULT & VIDEOS (Updated)

1. Tatsuki MACHIDA (JPN) - 265.38 Free Skate, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
2. Adam RIPPON (USA) - 241.24 Free Skate, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
3. Max AARON (USA) - 238.36 Free Skate, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
4. Daisuke TAKAHASHI (JPN) - 236.21 Free Skate, 2nd Copy, 3rd Copy
5. Jason BROWN (USA) - 231.03 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
6. Takahiko KOZUKA (JPN) - 230.95 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
7. Alexander MAJOROV (SWE) - 208.72 Free Skate, 2nd Copy
8. Artur GACHINSKI (RUS) - 208.16 Free Skate, 2nd Copy

Olympia · Oct 20, 2013

They're showing it on TV now, and Rippon looked good despite his fall in the quad. He has a lovely way of moving that is both graceful and solid.

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