Skate Canada 2013-2014 Ladies Short Program
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Great start for Gracie! Seems like Frank has calmed her down a bit, but her arms are still too busy. Not surprised at TES but her PCS is maybe a point or two over (Olympic season generosity). TBH that mid-section just reminded me of her Hernando's Hideaway SP. Also, the music is GRATING. I love the violin, but this arrangement....was she deaf by the time she heard it? Definitely promising though, however we shall see how the judges will look at her FS. If she hasn't changed the music/choreography/everything for Sleeping Beauty, then there is no way her PCS should sustain.
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Clearly you were right about Osmond guaranteed a medal even if she fell. :sarcasm:
There were two judges who gave Gracie much higher PCS than to Akiko. One of them gave 6.75 to Akiko and 8.50 to Gracie for interpretation.
Ugh! That's a travesty! :scowl:
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)On Gracie: she's skating much closer to her abilities. And while I think her music would be much better as a piano version rather than violin, it's beginning to sound less and less like a Rihanna-Chris Brown dinner conversation with every jump Gracie successfully lands.
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LADIES SHORT PROGRAM - RESULT & VIDEOS (Updated)
1. Gracie GOLD (USA) - 69.45 Short Program, 2nd Copy
2. Julia LIPNITSKAIA (RUS) - 66.89 Short Program
3. Akiko SUZUKI (JPN) - 65.76 Short Program
4. Christina GAO (USA) - 62.82 Short Program
5. Kaetlyn OSMOND (CAN) - 60.32 Short Program
6. Amelie LACOSTE (CAN) - 59.13 Short Program
7. Natalia POPOVA (UKR) - 52.36 Short Program
8. Veronik MALLET (CAN) - 50.71 Short Program
9. Courtney HICKS (USA) - 50.70 Short Program
1. Gracie GOLD (USA) - 69.45 Short Program, 2nd Copy
2. Julia LIPNITSKAIA (RUS) - 66.89 Short Program
3. Akiko SUZUKI (JPN) - 65.76 Short Program
4. Christina GAO (USA) - 62.82 Short Program
5. Kaetlyn OSMOND (CAN) - 60.32 Short Program
6. Amelie LACOSTE (CAN) - 59.13 Short Program
7. Natalia POPOVA (UKR) - 52.36 Short Program
8. Veronik MALLET (CAN) - 50.71 Short Program
9. Courtney HICKS (USA) - 50.70 Short Program
If you consider the base value before any deductions to be +3, 6 judges deducted only -1 (and one didn't deduct at all) and they should have deducted more than that given how much she travelled.
I don't think it's worth +3, though. The final position is extremely fast but the previous positions are slower and the flow changing from one position to the next isn't perfect. The entry wasn't difficult either. So I'd set the GOE value before any deductions at +2 and then deduct -3 for travelling being as bad as it gets (travelling = -1 to -3 in the deductions sheet). That's splitting hairs of course but then picking protocols apart = my favourite hobby.
As for Osmond, she got 3 +2s and 6 +1s and whilst her combination spin was good, it wasn't outstanding so my guess is the judges just didn't notice the travelling there.
You don't judge the music. You judge how well skater moves to the music they have chosen.
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LADIES SHORT PROGRAM - RESULT & VIDEOS (Updated)
1. Gracie GOLD (USA) - 69.45 Short Program, 2nd Copy
2. Julia LIPNITSKAIA (RUS) - 66.89 Short Program, 2nd Copy
3. Akiko SUZUKI (JPN) - 65.76 Short Program, 2nd Copy
4. Christina GAO (USA) - 62.82 Short Program
5. Kaetlyn OSMOND (CAN) - 60.32 Short Program
6. Amelie LACOSTE (CAN) - 59.13 Short Program
7. Natalia POPOVA (UKR) - 52.36 Short Program
8. Veronik MALLET (CAN) - 50.71 Short Program
9. Courtney HICKS (USA) - 50.70 Short Program
1. Gracie GOLD (USA) - 69.45 Short Program, 2nd Copy
2. Julia LIPNITSKAIA (RUS) - 66.89 Short Program, 2nd Copy
3. Akiko SUZUKI (JPN) - 65.76 Short Program, 2nd Copy
4. Christina GAO (USA) - 62.82 Short Program
5. Kaetlyn OSMOND (CAN) - 60.32 Short Program
6. Amelie LACOSTE (CAN) - 59.13 Short Program
7. Natalia POPOVA (UKR) - 52.36 Short Program
8. Veronik MALLET (CAN) - 50.71 Short Program
9. Courtney HICKS (USA) - 50.70 Short Program
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That's exactly what I have trouble with. It's not so much whether I like the music but rather it is a distraction to watching the skating, as are the frantic arms, even as I see that she is doing her elements very well, ticking them off one by one.
I am liking Gracie's music more each time I gear it. As to matching the choreography with the music, all she has to do is a bunch of frantic disjointed runs and turns and it will fit perfectly.
I'm still thinking her music sounds like cats being strangled.
I am judging her movement. I did mention her arms....which were all over the place. No real meaning to it all.
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Exactly. I feel she is loosing her spin quality not just the centerness, but also speed-wise.
Besides flexibility, one needs strength to hold those spins, which Adelina does much much better. For me, a travelled spin should not receive + at all, and in some case, even a deduction for some skaters?
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Sotnikova's Spin is centered because it doesn't rotate that fast
give her time, Julia will be able to control them more consistently
last week she did her SP run through in Mocow Open Championship with centered spin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1052CQRfdw
and no she isn't slowing down speed wise on her spins
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Comparing: Ashley had a couple more points in PCS. Gracie got her on TES. Wagner needs to get the levels on her spins
I agree re: Ashley's spins
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