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    Gracie Gold - a dark horse for the Olympics medal

    Her score was huge for the sp. Usually the score gets higher throughout the year, so I guess she could give the favorites a run for their money and, of course, she has all the potential to beat Ashley at this point. What do you think?

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    definitely she can sneak in bronze or even a silver
    lets hope Gracie will be able to handle being US No.1

    by the time Sochi rolls in Gracie will be No.1 US lady heading to the Olympics
    not the old and worn out Wagner with a two footed 3-3

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    People are getting ahead of themselves. She needs to skate a good LP today to show that she's among the elite. Just a few weeks ago people were burying this girl. Things can change even in just a few short hours. She now needs to show she can finish the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    People are getting ahead of themselves. She needs to skate a good LP today to show that she's among the elite. Just a few weeks ago people were burying this girl. Things can change even in just a few short hours. She now needs to show she can finish the job.
    Skating forums are hazardous to your health. You can suffer whiplash just watching the buzz on Gracie rise and fall.

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    I hope she'll have a strong LP today - it was nice seeing some changes to her SP, it definitely seemed less "busy" with the small changes in choreo, and she seemed much more relaxed than I think we had seen her skate a SP all of last season. I still saw lots of room for improvement too.

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    I think what we're seeing is that the judges aren't going to give the top 3 and insurmountable edge in PCS, which to me is a great thing. I'd hate to see Carolina fall twice or Mao do three triples and beat clean programs from Gracie or Ashley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahspins View Post
    I hope she'll have a strong LP today - it was nice seeing some changes to her SP, it definitely seemed less "busy" with the small changes in choreo, and she seemed much more relaxed than I think we had seen her skate a SP all of last season. I still saw lots of room for improvement too.
    She looked HAPPY as she took her spot and throughout the program, and not just because she nailed everything. As she took her opening spot, she seemed to be thinking about something and then a smile broke across her face and the gleam came to her eye. Whatever that was, she needs to KEEP it or whatever FrankC has put in her mind needs to STAY there.

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    Only thing i wonder about is her jumps don't seem as big. Not sure if she's intentionally slowing herself down a bit to calm herself and so doesn't have as much power going into her jumps. But if she is doing that it's working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    Only thing i wonder about is her jumps don't seem as big. Not sure if she's intentionally slowing herself down a bit to calm herself and so doesn't have as much power going into her jumps. But if she is doing that it's working.
    yes, her jumps have gotten a bit smaller especially her 3lz-3t
    but its working, she is landing her jumps
    because Gracie uses too much speed and power on her jumps going into the next that she pops most of it

    I'm sure this is just temporary to calm her
    once she gets use to it , she will have the same attack as before on her jumps

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    I didn't see the scared look in her face that we've seen in the past when she took the ice yesterday. Now the test is if she misses a jump in her LP how she reacts. Usually it just starts to snowball from there and she struggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    I didn't see the scared look in her face that we've seen in the past when she took the ice yesterday. Now the test is if she misses a jump in her LP how she reacts. Usually it just starts to snowball from there and she struggles.
    Yeah my whole feeling on this at this point is good for her, wonderful short. However, she's usually done fine when the pressure is off. Going into this competition almost everyone of any knowledge level out there expected her to be third at best, behind Akiko and Julia. She'd also been flying under the radar for a few weeks. To me, the real question is what she can do now that she's in the lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Yeah my whole feeling on this at this point is good for her, wonderful short. However, she's usually done fine when the pressure is off. Going into this competition almost everyone of any knowledge level out there expected her to be third at best, behind Akiko and Julia. She'd also been flying under the radar for a few weeks. To me, the real question is what she can do now that she's in the lead.
    If you want to be considered a great champion, one of the questions you have to answer is: can you win when you're expected to?

    If the only time you won is when you crept up out of the blue, then there is uncertainty as to whether you are the genuine article, or simply a fluke.

    This LP will be a nice initial test for Gracie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Yeah my whole feeling on this at this point is good for her, wonderful short. However, she's usually done fine when the pressure is off. Going into this competition almost everyone of any knowledge level out there expected her to be third at best, behind Akiko and Julia. She'd also been flying under the radar for a few weeks. To me, the real question is what she can do now that she's in the lead.
    I don't think she ever expected to be behind Julia or Akiko, so I don't think the pressure was off. She had a legitimate reason for her subpar early season performances but seems to have made some adjustments to improve her consistency. Pressure or not, she hasn't skated many good shorts so this was a real triumph for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy
    I think what we're seeing is that the judges aren't going to give the top 3 and insurmountable edge in PCS, which to me is a great thing. I'd hate to see Carolina fall twice or Mao do three triples and beat clean programs from Gracie or Ashley.
    I'm pretty sure if Mao/Caro skated so badly, Gracie wouldn't need to be overscored in PCS to beat them. And while it's good and nice knowing the jugdes would actually score after performance and not name, I don't think Gracies SP marks are any sign of it (because of the inflated PCS, that is).

    Additionally, I take it the 3-triples comment shows you're talking about LPs too, and Gracie didn't even skate hers yet. She did really well in the SP, but just assuming she'll repeat that in the LP is premature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li'Kitsu View Post
    I'm pretty sure if Mao/Caro skated so badly, Gracie wouldn't need to be overscored in PCS to beat them. And while it's good and nice knowing the jugdes would actually score after performance and not name, I don't think Gracies SP marks are any sign of it (because of the inflated PCS, that is).

    Additionally, I take it the 3-triples comment shows you're talking about LPs too, and Gracie didn't even skate hers yet. She did really well in the SP, but just assuming she'll repeat that in the LP is premature.
    I'll have to go back and look, but my recollection is that her PCS for this short program were in the 7's and low 8's. They didn't seem wildly inappropriate to the performance.

    It's not as though she were scoring in the 9's. I'm not sure your comments regarding inflation are on point here.

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