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sweetskates1

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That is interesting. Do you think that W/P will compete at 2018 Korea olympics? And what ice dancers will become #1 after D/W retire?

Yes I think they are good skaters.. And Poje is extremely good looking (can't even mention the things I would do to that man). But I think whether they were good or not they would get the scores just for being Canadian. You notice in every discipline the ISU jacks up a Canadian. Even as horrible as katlyn Osmond is, they still try to hold her up. Remember the ridiculous scores Joannie Roachette used to get? The ISU wants that Canadian and Japanese money.
 

blackswanphoto

On the Ice
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For the U.S., I hope Chock and Bates continue on their upward path.

They may have slipped with that horror show of a long program this year though.. Hopefully it is better at the next competition. Bad Bad music choice. Only way they would be able to beat W/P in the next Olympic cycle though is if they are undisputedly better, like D/W is.
 

blackswanphoto

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That is interesting. Do you think that W/P will compete at 2018 Korea olympics? And what ice dancers will become #1 after D/W retire?

1. C/Lanotte
2. Weaver/Poje
3. A junior team (maybe Bubkin or the french junior couple)

I don't know of any American teams on the horizon and the Shibutani's just are not good enough.
 

tulosai

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For the U.S., I hope Chock and Bates continue on their upward path.

Me too, but I don't think D/W are retiring after the Olys so I think they will still need to be number 2 for a few years.

Could be wrong though, on either count.
 

bramweld

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Hawayek and Baker are American right? C/B scared me with their current FD! Why can't Igor and Marina kiss and makeup like civilized divorced people? V/M especially need Mummy and Daddy to reconcile:biggrin:
 

rain

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To me, Virtue and Moir's first and last lifts looked the same and the two rotational lift s looked the same.

I must disagree with you. I was actually really impressed with the lifts in this program (aside from the obvious errors on the last one). I think they need to smooth out a couple of them still, but for this early in the season I thought they looked good. I was also impressed to see that the twizzles looked great, unlike the mistake in the SD.

The Mahler FD from 2010 grew on me as the season progressed, and I think this one will do the same. It's not easy music to interpret, and I think there's still some work to be done to make it magic, but I do think it can get there.

As for the comparison with D/W — I always find D/W look more polished earlier in the season than V/M, but V/M always build to peak when they need to (aside from when injury hasn't allowed them the training and competition time they needed). I think both teams have excellent choreography and programs this season and it will be a tight race.

I have to say I'm pretty disturbed at the ugliness directed towards Virtue and her physical appearance, even if it's couched as supposed technical discussion.
 

Whitneyskates

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I have to say I'm pretty disturbed at the ugliness directed towards Virtue and her physical appearance, even if it's couched as supposed technical discussion.
So am I. As a D/W fan, I'm always upset when someone takes shots at Meryl's looks, and even though I'm not much of a V/M fan, I don't like shots being taken at Tessa's, either. Tessa is not what you would call a petite woman, but she doesn't have an odd looking body, either. She's packed on muscle and has also gained some weight, and personally, I don't think she's ever looked better.
 

chuckm

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1. C/Lanotte
2. Weaver/Poje
3. A junior team (maybe Bubkin or the french junior couple)

I don't know of any American teams on the horizon and the Shibutani's just are not good enough.

The Italian team C/L are older than D/W and would be 31 and 32 in 2018. If D/W stay past Sochi, it probably wouldn't be for more than a year or two at the most.
W/P will be 28 and 30 and will probably still be around.
 

Mao88

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FREE DANCE - RESULT & VIDEOS (Updated)

1. Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR (CAN) - 181.03 Free Dance
2. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE (CAN) - 175.23 Free Dance
3. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE (USA) - 153.20 Free Dance
4. Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO (RUS) - 145.56 Free Dance
5. Alexandra PAUL / Mitchell ISLAM (CAN) - 143.77 Free Dance
6. Nelli ZHIGANSHINA / Alexander GAZSI (GER) - 138.16 Free Dance
7. Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI (ITA) - 134.28 Free Dance
8. Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN (RUS) - 133.12 Free Dance
 

Skater Boy

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Yes I think they are good skaters.. And Poje is extremely good looking (can't even mention the things I would do to that man). But I think whether they were good or not they would get the scores just for being Canadian. You notice in every discipline the ISU jacks up a Canadian. Even as horrible as katlyn Osmond is, they still try to hold her up. Remember the ridiculous scores Joannie Roachette used to get? The ISU wants that Canadian and Japanese money.

OMG I am sure if there was some psychiatrist looking at these posts and could understand them he would recommend that everyone be locked up lol. What do looks have to do with skating abilities? Did I miss something I hardly think Kaitlyn is horrible and when did that Canadian woman Rochette get overscored - it seemed like most missed her skating skills and transitions etc. If anything one would have thought it would be the Americans or Russians described as having tonnes of power. If Canada had so much power then D and W would not be future Olympic champions. And Chan would have OGM when he might get nothing.
 

noidont

Final Flight
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As a concept V/M's FD is better than D/W. It is nuanced and supposed to be full of romantic connotations. But they really skated it badly at SC, worse than Finlandia. That program needs full-on speed to make it work. Any tentative lift would kill the flow.
 

missysays

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Nov 8, 2007
V/M have some great lifts!! Their costumes should change again - do not like the generic burgundy with black on Moir and I think the pink color is beautiful on Tessa but it looks like a slip. I think that it feels so empty, there is something missing.. I don't know..

I feel Tessa and Scott's costuming in their FD is reminiscent of Gordeeva and Grinkov's Vocalise costumes- in color at least - not exactly in details of outfits. G/G's costuming was Katia in pale pink and Sergei in a deep rust colored outfit. Very similar to the color scheme for Scott and Tessa's costumes. But that's Marina all over again - trying to make them the second coming of G/G ice dance style.
 

WeakAnkles

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Hawayek and Baker are American right? C/B scared me with their current FD! Why can't Igor and Marina kiss and makeup like civilized divorced people? V/M especially need Mummy and Daddy to reconcile:biggrin:

Considering that their "breakup" actually resulted in a court case, I somehow doubt Mommy and Daddy will be sending each other Valentine present for the foreseeable future. LOL.
 

elif

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To me, Virtue and Moir's first and last lifts looked the same and the two rotational lift s looked the same.

First and last lift looked similar. I don't think entrance is interesting either. At least they changed one of the rotational lift. They were same in the Finlandia Trophy. This time entrance looking different and Tessa didn't hold her blade. Actually this new lift come from Mahler FD too. :slink: They need a good lift specialist. Scott is really struggling.
 

dorispulaski

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I think the program is supposed to cause you to remember older programs of theirs-and it does that by having variations of moves they have had before. It will be interesting to see how it develops over the season.
 

WeakAnkles

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Yes I think they are good skaters.. And Poje is extremely good looking (can't even mention the things I would do to that man). But I think whether they were good or not they would get the scores just for being Canadian. You notice in every discipline the ISU jacks up a Canadian. Even as horrible as katlyn Osmond is, they still try to hold her up. Remember the ridiculous scores Joannie Roachette used to get? The ISU wants that Canadian and Japanese money.

Then why aren't P/I, certainly a talented couple themselves, benefiting from the same bribery and corruption? And Osmond's SP score here looks, according to your theory, like money not exactly well-spent.

My Mom always says if you have to put down someone else in order to make yourself look good, it doesn't say much for yourself. Just sayin'...
 

sweetskates1

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Honestly, I think that D/W have the most elaborate and well executed concept I have seen in the past five years following ID. It's not that the lifts are not fast enough, it's that as I watched the video again, the program looks empty. They are skating around and they have a few lifts and there is not much immediately after or immediately before them... And the lifts themselves are not nearly as impressive when you watch them a second time. I know that they always get loads better as the season progresses, and the judges always seem to see so much more greatness than my untrained eye can see so I am sure that by the Olympics D/W will win only by a miracle.

As a concept V/M's FD is better than D/W. It is nuanced and supposed to be full of romantic connotations. But they really skated it badly at SC, worse than Finlandia. That program needs full-on speed to make it work. Any tentative lift would kill the flow.
 

blackswanphoto

On the Ice
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Then why aren't P/I, certainly a talented couple themselves, benefiting from the same bribery and corruption? And Osmond's SP score here looks, according to your theory, like money not exactly well-spent.

My Mom always says if you have to put down someone else in order to make yourself look good, it doesn't say much for yourself. Just sayin'...

P/I? Are you kidding me? All the top dancers have a regal, royal, grand look about them when they skate. They carry authority. P/I has none of that. By comparison they have more of the look of peasants on ice. No amount of money can disguise that. And from what I remember Osmond fell on her backside.
 
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