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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsworthgirl View Post
    So glad I articulated your thoughts and that we're on the same page re Adam! yay! Have you listened to his interview on The Skating Lesson? He is wonderful in it and my love for him went up a new level after hearing it.
    Yes I have! I feel the same, he is great!! I hope he'll skate in TEB next year (Finlandia Trophy would be even better haha).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Given the current state of the U.S men it is best to look ahead and thus have 2 out of Dornbush, Brown, Farris, or Aaron on the team, whichever skates best at Nationals.
    Whoever skates best at Nationals deserves to go. Of course, there is always disagreement about the scores. I hope Dornbush and Brown don't get lowballed. I won't give up on Dornbush even if he doesn't do well on the Grand Prix. His programs are the hardest of the Americans. He is going for multiple Quads, but with actual choreography, unlike Max Aaron.

    And why would Rippon not be around in 2018? He is young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    Whoever skates best at Nationals deserves to go. Of course, there is always disagreement about the scores. I hope Dornbush and Brown don't get lowballed. I won't give up on Dornbush even if he doesn't do well on the Grand Prix. His programs are the hardest of the Americans. He is going for multiple Quads, but with actual choreography, unlike Max Aaron.

    And why would Rippon not be around in 2018? He is young.
    Rippon will be 28 and if he's not a contender at 24 he won't be at 28.

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    That's a ridiculous assumption. Everyone progresses differently. Anyone who is in their 20's can potentially compete if they aren't injured.

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    Age of U.S. men contenders at the senior level (namely those in the U.S. International Selection Pool) at the time of Nationals, for the record:

    Also including first year on senior circuit and highest nationals finish.

    Jeremy Abbott: 28 (6/5/1985) - (1st - 2009, 2010, 2012)
    Douglas Razanno: 25 (10/22/1988) - 2008 (5th-2012)
    Stephen Carriere: 24 (6/15/1989) - 2007 (3rd -2008)
    Adam Rippon: 24 (11/11/1989) - 2009 (2nd -2012)
    Alexander Johnson: 23 (05/15/1990) - 2010 (7th-2013)
    Grant Hochstein: 23 (07/16/1990) - 2010 (7th-2010)
    Brandon Mroz: 23 (12/22/1990) - 2009 (2nd -2009)
    Ross Miner: 22 (01/24/1991) -2011 - (W/D in 2010; 2nd-2013)
    Richard Dornbush: 22 (08/27/1991) - 2010 (W/D in 2009; 2nd-2011)
    Keegan Messing: 21 (01/23/1992) - 2010 (7th-2012)
    Max Aaron: 21 (02/25/1992)- 2012 (1st- 2013)
    Timothy Dolensky: 21 (07/18/1995) -2014 (he has yet to qualify at the senior level; was 2nd in 2012 at the junior level)
    Jason Brown: 19 (12/15/1994) -2011 (8th - 2013)
    Joshua Farris: 19 (1/6/1995) - 2011 (4th -2013)
    Shotaro Omori: 18 (10/23/1995) - 2014 (has yet to qualify at the senior level; was 2nd in 2013 at the junior level)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    That's a ridiculous assumption. Everyone progresses differently. Anyone who is in their 20's can potentially compete if they aren't injured.
    If someone at 24 isn't a medal contender i don't see them suddenly becoming one at 28 when they are older and worn out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    Rippon will be 28 and if he's not a contender at 24 he won't be at 28.
    then again there was Maria Butyrskaya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    Age of U.S. men contenders at the senior level (namely those in the U.S. International Selection Pool) at the time of Nationals, for the record:

    Also including first year on senior circuit and highest nationals finish.

    Jeremy Abbott: 28 (6/5/1985) - (1st - 2009, 2010, 2012)
    Douglas Razanno: 25 (10/22/1988) - 2008 (5th-2012)

    So is Evan Gold medal winner Lysacek not a contender??? Okay perhaps many feel is a pretender this year?
    Stephen Carriere: 24 (6/15/1989) - 2007 (3rd -2008)
    Adam Rippon: 24 (11/11/1989) - 2009 (2nd -2012)
    Alexander Johnson: 23 (05/15/1990) - 2010 (7th-2013)
    Grant Hochstein: 23 (07/16/1990) - 2010 (7th-2010)
    Brandon Mroz: 23 (12/22/1990) - 2009 (2nd -2009)
    Ross Miner: 22 (01/24/1991) -2011 - (W/D in 2010; 2nd-2013)
    Richard Dornbush: 22 (08/27/1991) - 2010 (W/D in 2009; 2nd-2011)
    Keegan Messing: 21 (01/23/1992) - 2010 (7th-2012)
    Max Aaron: 21 (02/25/1992)- 2012 (1st- 2013)
    Timothy Dolensky: 21 (07/18/1995) -2014 (he has yet to qualify at the senior level; was 2nd in 2012 at the junior level)
    Jason Brown: 19 (12/15/1994) -2011 (8th - 2013)
    Joshua Farris: 19 (1/6/1995) - 2011 (4th -2013)
    Shotaro Omori: 18 (10/23/1995) - 2014 (has yet to qualify at the senior level; was 2nd in 2013 at the junior level)
    Okay what about Evan OGM winner Lysacek? Right he is probably considered more of a pretender????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    Okay what about Evan OGM winner Lysacek? Right he is probably considered more of a pretender????
    Sorry, a case of out-of-sight/ out of mind type of thing.

    Here's the updated list:
    Evan Lysacek: 28 (6/4/1985) - 2001 (1st - 2007-2008)
    Jeremy Abbott: 28 (6/5/1985) -2007 (1st - 2009, 2010, 2012)
    Douglas Razanno: 25 (10/22/1988) - 2008 (5th-2012)
    Stephen Carriere: 24 (6/15/1989) - 2007 (3rd -2008)
    Adam Rippon: 24 (11/11/1989) - 2009 (2nd -2012)
    Alexander Johnson: 23 (05/15/1990) - 2010 (7th-2013)
    Grant Hochstein: 23 (07/16/1990) - 2010 (7th-2010)
    Brandon Mroz: 23 (12/22/1990) - 2009 (2nd -2009)
    Ross Miner: 22 (01/24/1991) -2011 - (W/D in 2010; 2nd-2013)
    Richard Dornbush: 22 (08/27/1991) - 2010 (W/D in 2009; 2nd-2011)
    Keegan Messing: 21 (01/23/1992) - 2010 (7th-2012)
    Max Aaron: 21 (02/25/1992)- 2012 (1st- 2013)
    Timothy Dolensky: 21 (07/18/1995) -2014 (he has yet to qualify at the senior level; was 2nd in 2012 at the junior level)
    Jason Brown: 19 (12/15/1994) -2011 (8th - 2013)
    Joshua Farris: 19 (1/6/1995) - 2011 (4th -2013)
    Shotaro Omori: 18 (10/23/1995) - 2014 (has yet to qualify at the senior level; was 2nd in 2013 at the junior level)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    If someone at 24 isn't a medal contender i don't see them suddenly becoming one at 28 when they are older and worn out.
    *coughKonstantinMenshovcough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    *coughKonstantinMenshovcough*
    I'm talking about on the international stage such as Worlds, Olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    Sorry, a case of out-of-sight/ out of mind type of thing.

    Here's the updated list:
    Evan Lysacek: 28 (6/4/1985) - 2001 (1st - 2007-2008)
    Jeremy Abbott: 28 (6/5/1985) -2007 (1st - 2009, 2010, 2012)
    Douglas Razanno: 25 (10/22/1988) - 2008 (5th-2012)
    Stephen Carriere: 24 (6/15/1989) - 2007 (3rd -2008)
    Adam Rippon: 24 (11/11/1989) - 2009 (2nd -2012)
    Alexander Johnson: 23 (05/15/1990) - 2010 (7th-2013)
    Grant Hochstein: 23 (07/16/1990) - 2010 (7th-2010)
    Brandon Mroz: 23 (12/22/1990) - 2009 (2nd -2009)
    Ross Miner: 22 (01/24/1991) -2011 - (W/D in 2010; 2nd-2013)
    Richard Dornbush: 22 (08/27/1991) - 2010 (W/D in 2009; 2nd-2011)
    Keegan Messing: 21 (01/23/1992) - 2010 (7th-2012)
    Max Aaron: 21 (02/25/1992)- 2012 (1st- 2013)
    Timothy Dolensky: 21 (07/18/1995) -2014 (he has yet to qualify at the senior level; was 2nd in 2012 at the junior level)
    Jason Brown: 19 (12/15/1994) -2011 (8th - 2013)
    Joshua Farris: 19 (1/6/1995) - 2011 (4th -2013)
    Shotaro Omori: 18 (10/23/1995) - 2014 (has yet to qualify at the senior level; was 2nd in 2013 at the junior level)
    Jeremy and Evan are one day apart?! Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wordsworthgirl View Post
    Jeremy and Evan are one day apart?! Amazing.
    Yes. But they had very different careers. Even was an fast-starter. He debuted at nationals at age 15 in 2001, but continued to compete at the junior level until the 2004 season. He debuted on the GP in the 2004-2005 season, winning two bronze medals and a surprise bronze at 2005 Worlds.

    Jeremy is a late bloomer. It took him two tries to qualify at the novice level (6th in 2002) and two tries to make it on the junior level before winning silver at the junior level in 2004 and gold in 2005. He then failed to make sectionals at the senior level in 2005-2006 season (very competitive sectional field) and finally made it to nationals at the senior level in 2007. He debuted on the senior GP in 2007-2008, but got his first GP medals (gold at both Cup of China/GPF) the following season, his breakout season in 2008-2009, when he won his first national title.

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    I would like for the Olympic team to be Jeremy Abbott and Alexander Johnson. Too bad Alex got injured. I guess we'll only see him at Nationals. I hope he continues after this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    Whoever skates best at Nationals deserves to go. Of course, there is always disagreement about the scores. I hope Dornbush and Brown don't get lowballed. I won't give up on Dornbush even if he doesn't do well on the Grand Prix. His programs are the hardest of the Americans. He is going for multiple Quads, but with actual choreography, unlike Max Aaron.

    And why would Rippon not be around in 2018? He is young.
    Skaters dont typically skate in the eligible ranks until 28 or 29. The list of those who do are very short. Just try making one and you will see what I mean. That said Rippon could be one of those exceptions and still be competing at that age. He would be unlikely to be a contender at the World level by then though, when despite being a top U.S contender for about 5 years now, he has never been close to being one at the World level.

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