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Thread: Least Talented/Worthy Olympic Champion(s) ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    As for Slutskaya she was lucky to hit her peak in this same all time worst 93-2003 period in ladies skating.
    All time worst, LOL, what? This is the period where artistry in ladies skating really blossomed and it was combined with high technical content as well. Nothing that Midori or Yamaguchi (or Harding) did in the 1992 season would beat Tara or Michelle at the 1998 Olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    Nothing that Midori or Yamaguchi (or Harding) did in the 1992 season would beat Tara or Michelle at the 1998 Olympics.
    You may want to watch Midori at NHK before making that assertion

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Probably, but despite that had Slutskaya been an American and not competing against their beloved Kwan they would have hypocritically worshiped her to the heavens anyway.
    I doubt it. The US had its own (better) version of Irina--Tonya Harding. The USFSA never supported her like the Russians supported and pushed Irina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenaj View Post
    I doubt it. The US had its own (better) version of Irina--Tonya Harding. The USFSA never supported her like the Russians supported and pushed Irina.
    "Better" version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarneAsada View Post
    "Better" version?
    Well, better until she went off the rails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    You may want to watch Midori at NHK before making that assertion
    or Kristi at 92 Nationals, or Harding at 91 Skate America. All would have easily beaten Tara and Michelle at the Nagano Olympics. Maybe not Kwan from U.S Nationals though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenaj View Post
    I doubt it. The US had its own (better) version of Irina--Tonya Harding. The USFSA never supported her like the Russians supported and pushed Irina.
    Harding was only better than Irina when she had her shnit together which was like 10% of the time at most unfortunately.

    As for the USFSA not supporting Harding, alot of that was her upbringing, not so much her skating. The whole trailer trash background, which unfortunately should have meant nothing, but always did. Tonya in fact claims that the USFSA forced her to get back with Gillooly right before the 94 Nationals. Slutskaya as far as I know had a normal family upbringing and did nothing that ruffled feathers with anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    You may want to watch Midori at NHK before making that assertion
    Midori only landed 5 clean Triples at NHK that season:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMe1tFPau_Y

    Artistically the program was one of her worst. They tried to make her a Yamaguchi clone (with better jumps) and it didn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    or Kristi at 92 Nationals, or Harding at 91 Skate America. All would have easily beaten Tara and Michelle at the Nagano Olympics.
    No they wouldn't have. Kristi didn't do the 3Lutz+3Toe combo at 92 Nationals and she didn't skate that performance with the same energy as later in the season. Harding was strong, but not perfect like at 1991 Nationals. She would have lost it on the presentation mark.

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    Resurrecting the thread to add this little gem

    http://morozombie.blogspot.com/2013/...rang.html#more

    One example of the very, very few skaters who I feel have done Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2 justice is the great pairs team of Natalia Mishkutenok and Artur Dmitriev, specifically their performance to the Moderato and Adagio sostenuto movements of the concerto on the night of the long program performances at the 1994 Winter Olympics in Lillehammer, one of the greatest nights of pairs skating ever. The wily Tamara Moskvina, knowing that Miskutenok/Dmitriev were up against the technically proper and classically beautiful team of Gordeeva/Grinkov, chose the one piece of music that would display Mishkutenok/Dmitriev's comparatively wild, passionate and less orthodox style to their fullest advantage. "Perfection or passion," opined Scott Hamilton when comparing Gordeeva/Grinkov with Mishkutenok/Dmitriev, and for once he was correct. If there ever was a piece of music in which it felt artistically "right" for Mr. Dmitriev to fling Ms. Mishkutenok wildly into the air like a sack of potatoes in their throw jumps or have a small stumble on his footwork due to his complete emotional abandon in the performance, Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2 was it.

    I of course adore the entire program, but my favorite part is the stormy conclusion. The closing choreography of this program is pure Moskvina Magic and is also one of my favorite bits of pairs choreography ever: Natalia spin, Mr. Dmitriev ripping open his costume to reveal a ~dramatic~ red panel (Yuko Kavaguti can only dream of ripping open her costume with the panache of Mr. Dmitriev), dual back arches, Mr. Dmitriev flinging himself into a wild flying leap into the air while Ms. Mishkutenok prostrates herself in the face of his gloriousness, before the pair comes together again in the final, slam-bang ending pose, all of this set in the midst of the sturm und drang of the Moderato's conclusion.

    Perfection or passion? For me, I'd have to agree with Frost: From what I've tasted of desire/
    I hold with those who favor fire.
    Pairs are so boring today I don't even care who win anymore. Except B/L. I can't even look at them without getting annoyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    Resurrecting the thread to add this little gem

    http://morozombie.blogspot.com/2013/...rang.html#more



    Pairs are so boring today I don't even care who win anymore. Except B/L. I can't even look at them without getting annoyed.
    Morozombie is god. S/S are pretty good although aside from them and (for me) J/C, everyone else is dry and boring in pairs right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    Resurrecting the thread to add this little gem

    http://morozombie.blogspot.com/2013/...rang.html#more

    That is indeed a gem. I'd love to see that level of commitment from a pair this time around, but it's rare even in the most elevated reaches of the sport. We are lucky that we have this one and that we can see it again and again.

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    Hey there is no such thing as untalented or unworthy Champions! If you think so you have no clue what it takes to even get to International level!

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