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I don't think Lambiel deserves to be singled out without Jeffrey Buttle - the forgotten one it seems. But they are the impetus to Dai and Chan.
Davis and White's career record is reason enough for them to be remembered.
They are the only couple to win the GPF four times. They haven't lost a GP event since 2008 (five years!!). They are the first American pair to win the World Championship and do it twice.
I don't love Grishuk and Platov, but I don't downplay their dominance from 1994-1998 in Ice Dance.
As to weather people will go back and look at D/W's programs. I think they will. Die Fieldermaus comes to mind. So does Giselle. Heck, people still talk about their Samson and Delilah program even now.
Their Bollywood OD was one of the highest viewed videos in countries that aren't big on skating.
I think at the very least they've solidified their legend status in the US Ice Dance community. Tanith and Ben opened the door, and Meryl and Charlie blew through it.
This was back when Facebook had that who "You are..." statuses.... is seeing US figure skating to a Bollywood favorite song. wow.
This was back when Facebook had that who "You are..." statuses.
is the Bollywood program really that old?! LOL
Their Bollywood OD was one of the highest viewed videos in countries that aren't big on skating.
Buttle will be known as the ultimate CoP master for his intentional fall on the quad in 2006 that got him the bronze.
I would not cite the high YouTube interest in Davis/White's Bollywood OD (although very cool ) as a reason that they will be remembered as great skaters.
As you say, many of the YouTube viewers were not skating fans. Although the numbers indicate a strong appreciation for D/W's creativity and authenticity, I don't think they are a barometer of the quality of their ice dancing per se.
(Off topic: IIRC, the iPad went on the market just after the 2010 Olympics, where presumably many who do not follow skating first laid eyes on D/W's Bollywood number.)
The YouTube interest, however, does point to a certain part of accessibility and relatability D/W provided to nonfans. We talk endlessly about how to engage more nonfans with the sport, and D/W played a small part in doing so.
That said, I think they will be remembered for their creative and interesting OD/SD over the years. I think they'll be remember for their athleticism as well.
Not directing this at you golden411, but just a general thought: Why does there have to be a mutual exclusivity in terms of remembrance? It's not like V/M will be remembered any less because D/W is up there as well. I guess if the discussion is "most remembered" then perhaps we can have a discussion, but I still think both couples have different reasons to be remembered.
The greats will include the Protopopovs (sorry about butchering the name(, Gordeeva and Grinkov, Torvill and Dean, Klimova and Pomarenko, Toller Cranston (for his originality), yuna kim, Michelle kwan, Katarina Witt, sonja Henie, Midori Ito, Kurt Browning, Evgeni Plushenko, Artur dimitriev (not no partner mentioned), Irina Rodina again no partner mentioned, Virtue and Moir will only make it if they manage to win a 2nd ogm and that is unlikely. Being great imho is more than winning medals or ogm and there aren't a lot. A lot of very memorable but great is the creme de la creme Otherwise I would add Liz Manley, Oksana Baiul, Sasha Cohen, Mao Asada, Gritschuk and Platov, Brian Boitano, Brian Orser, Stephane Lambiel, Jeffrey Buttle, Alexei Yagudin, Ilia Kulik, Sale and Pelletier, B and S (I won't even try their names), Peggy Fleming, Dorothy Hamil, Irina Slutskaya, Surya BOnaly, Maria Butyrskaya, Denise Bielman, Bestminaova and Bukin, Robin Cousins, John Curry,Shen and Zhao, T and M, Usova and Zhulin, Krylova and Oksianikov, Anissina and Peizerot,
He could have just done a 2Axel instead and won the Bronze anyway. The judges had him way ahead. But, yes, it's annoying the amount of points people get for doing a quad splat. The problem has only gotten worse with updated CoP rules (6.3 points for a fall on a Quad Toe these days...sigh), which is a big reason for why Patrick Chan's competitive results are seen as undeserved.
Matt Savoie deserved that Bronze medal, to me. In terms of PCS he had the best LP of the competition and his jumps were good enough. Sublime choreography and interpretation, with by FAR the most difficult transitions. Really unfair scores there.
I would not cite the high YouTube interest in Davis/White's Bollywood OD (although very cool ) as a reason that they will be remembered as great skaters.