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Oh I don't know are any one of them talked about as much as Mao? :think:
when it was happening? yeah it was just as brutal... it takes about a decade for it to start to die down to where it's not EVERY thread...
Oh I don't know are any one of them talked about as much as Mao? :think:
does that mean every ladies skater who ever bested Kwan is a legend?
I don't know about Tara and Irina, but you gotta give it up for Josee Chouinard at the 2000 Canadian Open.
(What?! I was going to give a link. Can you believe this program is not on You Tube?)
I am sorry many have said she dos not move them and we understand why that is.
You read my mind, MM! I was just on youtube trying to find the programs Josee used to beat Kwan! Guess I need to find my tape and put in on Youtube!
ETA - Kwan and her fans did not take that loss very well.
Well of course we didn't. Chouinard fell on a triple Lutz, while Michelle was meh but clean. The announcers mentioned something about interpreting the music, telling a delightful story, etc., but I think it was rampant Chouinardflation in Canada.
By the way, there was a little feature after that and if I remember the story correctly, Josee was actually all but retired by that time and was teaching school. When she came back with a gold medal all her students swarmed around her like a hero and she used the experience to teach a lesson about never give up, challenge the odds, remember David and Goliath, etc., etc. :yes:
Ok maybe I was a bit harsh, but I was simply stating my opinion. I appreciate that you respect my opinion and I respect yours as well . I know that she has a huge following in the skating world. I love watching Mao tooThat's discrediting Asada a little too much. She now has a Grand Prix Grand Slam (the first ever), she's the first Asian lady to win multiple world championships, a Guinness World Record for her Triple Axels. Yes she only has two World medals, but apart from Kim's gold- they have more or less the same amount of medals. I would definitely credit that as a GREAT career. Asada has never finished lower than top 10 in the World. If she doesn't win the OGM at Sochi, people surely will still remember her. Not only that, she has a MASSIVE following around the world. If that isn't a great career, I don't know what is. I respect your opinion, but I find it a little too obtuse.
Toller Cranston said many in the skating world have this criticism.
I think both young zijun and young yuna when asked about idol, they really didnot think that much about history or politics, they just liked their idols's skating. especially, when young skaters list idol outside their own nationality, it almost always means that they purely love their idols' skating.
Jaylee, people were standing for a great clean technical skate. I agree it was a great skate. Already said it. Toller Cranston said many in the skating world have this criticism. She will keep skating. Watch Shizuka's Yugao. Non competitive skating allows for more beauty. I am hardly the only one who has said this. Her best skate is yet to come, maybe not in competition. She was returning and she skated very well. YuNa is applauded for huge jumps alone. No one was close at that Worlds. Sorry, I really don't get intimidated by snarky posts like yours. You can like or adore whomever you wish. Have fun!
If we're asking about long-term horizons about who'll be "remembered" as great, you should listen to young aspiring skaters themselves, as I think they have the bigger influence in passing down tales of legends and memories of great performances. They often speak of their idols--Mao of Midori Ito and Yuna of Michelle Kwan--which tends to keep these great skaters from the previous era fresh in the mind of young fans who may not even have been old enough to be aware of them. Inspiration is one of the biggest test of greatness, and no matter how many times some people crow about not being "moved" by a certain skater, the fact is many fans and actual figure skaters are being moved--not just emotionally as a passive spectator, but to pursue their goals and dreams. If that's not "moving" people with your skating, nothing is.
I do not see your point. Clearly people here agree Yuna is No.1 and Mao is nobody compared to Yuna's brilliant career so there is no rivalry between them.The rivalry between Yuna and Mao does not exist, it was invented by Koreans and Japaneses, as part of their traditional hating. Yuna ans Mao are different skaters with different styles, each one with her career and accomplishments. When they retire 99,9% of their fans will stop watching FS.
What bothers me is when they start to bring 1000000 arguments why Yuna is great and Mao isn't or the other way around, or try to convince me that the likes and dislikes on youtube don't come from Asians, like the whole world would be interested only in Yuna and Mao.
In case it hasn't been pointed out yet, Asada is not the first to win all the GPs, though she is the first singles skater to have done so. Shen and Zhao were the first to win all six GPs (as well as the GPF and the now-discontinued Bofrost Cup, see here). S/Z and Mao were joined this past weekend by Savchenko/Szolkowy, whose CoC title rounded out their GP collection. Brian Joubert chased the GP record for a while but never managed to win CoC. I don't think anyone else has won more than four.That's discrediting Asada a little too much. She now has a Grand Prix Grand Slam (the first ever)
Back on topic, I like Mao and Yuna. I don't understand why so many fans think these are mutually exclusive opinions, seeing as how they are such different skaters that it's possible to appreciate each for her strengths and accomplishments.