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    Quote Originally Posted by Sara View Post
    wow, Peng is 29 and Zhang only 16. Huge age difference.
    That's why they choose this piece of music, if you watched Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

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    Bramweld, I loved the music choice too! So sophisticated and really well suited for them. Love the opening and closing image. For me, this program really displays Pang and Tong's maturity as a couple and as people. I'm not sure the movement and the mood they created would have felt as authentic on any other team right now. They also looked much better here than I expected.

    It's funny I watched S/S first and I didn't know what music Pang and Tong were skating too, but as I was watching S/S I kept thinking how much I wish they had chosen Lady Caliph and lo and behold P/T are skating to it!

    Unfortunately for me S/S sp music doesn't have the impact I want it. I appreciate the mood they are trying to create but I feel like something a little more driving would really help them build that Olympic excitement you want to see. Also, until I realized they were doing the triple axel, their set up for the jump made me think they had forgotten something in the choreography or missed an element!

    Anyway, I don't mean to sound so critical or nit-picky, the quality of their other elements were really wonderful, and it is early in the season, I just... wanted more I guess.

    I'm looking forward to the free skate to see what both teams have in store for us!

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    I wish S&S wouldn't keep going for the 3ATh, since they seldom hit it, and it's not like there's any "first ever" involved, since Inoue & Baldwin already did the first in ISU & Olympic competitions.

    Their 3FTh is great! They don't need the 3ATh, particularly since it is not hyper-rewarded or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemistry66 View Post
    For a second I got really confused, then realized you switched the ages.
    oh no, haha sorry for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I wish S&S wouldn't keep going for the 3ATh, since they seldom hit it, and it's not like there's any "first ever" involved, since Inoue & Baldwin already did the first in ISU & Olympic competitions.

    Their 3FTh is great! They don't need the 3ATh, particularly since it is not hyper-rewarded or anything.
    Yes, you're absolutely right Doris, they should change it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I wish S&S wouldn't keep going for the 3ATh, since they seldom hit it, and it's not like there's any "first ever" involved, since Inoue & Baldwin already did the first in ISU & Olympic competitions.
    This!, they'll lose a placement in the most important events, even drop to bronze or even 4th if the mistakes are too costly

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I wish S&S wouldn't keep going for the 3ATh, since they seldom hit it, and it's not like there's any "first ever" involved, since Inoue & Baldwin already did the first in ISU & Olympic competitions.

    Their 3FTh is great! They don't need the 3ATh, particularly since it is not hyper-rewarded or anything.
    Their 3FTh usually earnes them more than 7 points (5.50 BV +GOE between +2 and +3), when the best they have ever scored with a 3ATh in the SP is 6.64... If they REALLY want to attempt it, they should do it only in the FS

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    I also agree. It's just not worth it. They aren't likely to land it clean and their th3flip usually gets +2 GOE at least.

    I gotta admire their tenacity though. Whilst their chances of OWG gold are almost none, at least they will come down fighting. It's all or nothing.

    I've finished the Pairs SP report up, btw. Link below:
    http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...3-Cup-of-China

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    Exactly.

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    I think so as well. Better execute "easier" elements as best as you can and get positive GOE. But I understand where they are coming from. They were on german tv some time ago, and they basically said that they were focusing in training on the axel for 2 years and really want to do it in competition. I think putting it in the LP only might be a good idea.

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    I wholeheartedly agree with Doris regarding S/S. They had everything they needed to mount a serious challenge to V/T, then somebody whispered in their ears here's the shortcut to beating them. The 3A! And worse they believed it!! V/T to their credit have honed all their elements they soar on every lift, throw, I could go on. How this infuriates me..Now it looks like there will be no real challenge for the gold barring disaster, however MT/M could surprise me Couldn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bramweld View Post
    I wholeheartedly agree with Doris regarding S/S. They had everything they needed to mount a serious challenge to V/T, then somebody whispered in their ears here's the shortcut to beating them. The 3A! And worse they believed it!! V/T to their credit have honed all their elements they soar on every lift, throw, I could go on. How this infuriates me..Now it looks like there will be no real challenge for the gold barring disaster, however MT/M could surprise me Couldn't they?
    MTM can definitely sneak a silver

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    Unfortunately they will lose against V/T if they just do a clean SP with 3Flip, since the judges have made it clear how much they will overscore V/T. S/S want to win Gold and the only way to do it at this point is hitting the 3Axel, so that they can make the judges see them as actually being the superior team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    Unfortunately they will lose against V/T if they just do a clean SP with 3Flip, since the judges have made it clear how much they will overscore V/T. S/S want to win Gold and the only way to do it at this point is hitting the 3Axel, so that they can make the judges see them as actually being the superior team.
    how much will they get for a 3A ? they lose GOE anyways
    the chances of landing it cleanly is close to zero without two footing the landing

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    And the chances of beating a clean V/T without it is 0, so...they have to do it.

    They've been trying this element in competition since 2012. Hopefully by the time the Olympics rolls around, they can nail it cleanly.

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