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The streams probably got overloaded...But there will probably be videos in the following channel, according to the organizers:
http://www.youtube.com/user/VolvoCupRiga/videos
There will probably also be home videos.
ISU VOLVO CUP 22nd (7-10 november 2013)
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The streams probably got overloaded...But there will probably be videos in the following channel, according to the organizers:
http://www.youtube.com/user/VolvoCupRiga/videos
There will probably also be home videos.
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Protocols for men are up: http://kristalice.lv/Results/Volvo22th/ISU/SeniorMen_SP_Scores.pdf
Plushenko landed 3T, 3A, 3Lz+2T. Was this layout performed as planned, as he got +GOE? (a 3Lz+3T would have been invalid with the solo 3T)
Spins were level 4, 3 and 4. Steps were 4. So solid.
PCS ranging from high 7's and low 9's, averaging to mid 8's.
TES was 39.64, which is more than enough for EC and Olys (25.00), and Worlds (34.00) though I doubt it's on his agenda.
Plushenko landed 3T, 3A, 3Lz+2T. Was this layout performed as planned, as he got +GOE? (a 3Lz+3T would have been invalid with the solo 3T)
Spins were level 4, 3 and 4. Steps were 4. So solid.
PCS ranging from high 7's and low 9's, averaging to mid 8's.
TES was 39.64, which is more than enough for EC and Olys (25.00), and Worlds (34.00) though I doubt it's on his agenda.
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Actually, I just wanted to mention that his TES was 39.64... 33.10 was the base value of his elements.
Edit: and here is the first home video, thanks to Jelena Birk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmUBpM4KlBk&feature=youtu.be
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Actually, I just wanted to mention that his TES was 39.64... 33.10 was the base value of his elements.
Yes, I looked the wrong place. Corrected now
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If he did 4t, and 3z-3t, it would be around 90, so his budget skate is only 82.34
Let's hope someone will load good video, for this historical moment.
Let's hope someone will load good video, for this historical moment.
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Zhenya, little by little one step at a time, good howing so far
he dosent need to load it all up right now, he met the minimum tes and the important thing is to fully heal by Olympics
Mishin must be proud 2 students go 1-2 here
though Petrov is only 14 yrs thus would have been disqualified, is senior eligibility for men is also 14 years old ?
he dosent need to load it all up right now, he met the minimum tes and the important thing is to fully heal by Olympics
Mishin must be proud 2 students go 1-2 here
though Petrov is only 14 yrs thus would have been disqualified, is senior eligibility for men is also 14 years old ?
Plushenko's scores are really inflated for what he did but then with his reputation, I am not surprised.
3toe had no preceding steps at all.
3axel and 3lutz/2toe were good.
All spins were quite weak. He struggled with difficult variations.
Program was really empty and he was quite slow for a skater of this standard.
I totally disagree on spins. There was no fusp in sight! Kovtun the main opponent is actually doing 2 point worth fusps!!! He has no artificial disc! They were all filled with difficult variations and maybe because he was fresh he got so low on the sit spin! I was shocked! The camera isn't that close and if his moves weren't so identifiable overall i wouldn't believe he got so low on a sit spin!
As always there were preceding steps before his lutz. Steps are supposed to be before solo but lutz is not the planned combo so that's where the Preceding steps were!
It was an "economy class program", just like Mishin said he was going to skate.
I like the StSQ and I also saw nice transitions in some practice videos (from St. Petresburg, not Riga). I hope he can get back in shape and skate the program to full potential.
I'm so excited to see The Best of Plushenko! :thumbsup:
I agree he was overscored, but he knows he still has to work a lot.
I like the StSQ and I also saw nice transitions in some practice videos (from St. Petresburg, not Riga). I hope he can get back in shape and skate the program to full potential. I'm so excited to see The Best of Plushenko! :thumbsup:
I agree he was overscored, but he knows he still has to work a lot.
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economy class means Plushy wont do a quad or transitions, he came here for the minimums
dont worry he knows what he lacks, quads and transitions on that performance
Plushenko's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmUBpM4KlBk&feature=player_embedded
dont worry he knows what he lacks, quads and transitions on that performance
Plushenko's SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmUBpM4KlBk&feature=player_embedded
I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THE JUDGING OF THE ICE DANCE EVENT. IT WAS BASICALLY CONTROLLED BY THE RUSSIANS! There are teams there who shouldn't of been scored so high and there are teams that got dumped down low!Poor Dani and Greg- they got marked down so badly. 11th after the short-- there is something wrong here with the judging!
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Poor Dani and Greg- they got marked down so badly. 11th after the short-- there is something wrong here with the judging!
who are Dani/Greg ? they are the same as any of the other dancers
and there wasn't even a russian participant here
The referee is Russian, the technical specialist is russian and some of the judges are either from a former russian state or they are a russian, judging on behalf of another country...and there is also a Russian Judge. Also, have you noticed who the Ukranian Judge is? - Yuri Balkov (remember the block judging scandal at the Nagano Olympics?)
Danielle Obrien and greg merriman are 6 times national Australian ice dance champions. They train at DSC with Pasquale and Anjelika as their coaches, They qualified for the Olympics at Nebelhorn im September. There were teams that placed above them that should not of been placed above them!mthey were judged based on what the judges assumed was their skatng ability, rather than what they demonstrated at the competition.
Danielle Obrien and greg merriman are 6 times national Australian ice dance champions. They train at DSC with Pasquale and Anjelika as their coaches, They qualified for the Olympics at Nebelhorn im September. There were teams that placed above them that should not of been placed above them!mthey were judged based on what the judges assumed was their skatng ability, rather than what they demonstrated at the competition.
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so ? you assume too much for their placements ? isnt that the same
fyi, Z/S and Z/G are also GP elite participants and have placed as high as 5th and 4th at the GP
Which couples were held up by judges? I'm curious.
so ? so assume too much for their placements ? isnt that the same
fyi, S/Z and Z/G are also GP elite participants and have placed as high as 5th and 4th at the GP
We are not seeming to be seeing this situation on the same level. To each their own opinion.
In my opinion, the panel was not balanced at all. The skaters who generally placed higher had a judge on the oanel to promote them.
How can the Azerbaijanis score in the low 50s at the grand prix to then suddenly improve by 10 points at this competition. Makes no sense to me! Some skaters got rediculously inflated- the azerbaijanis, estonians, both italian teams, the swiss team, the finnish team, the ukranian team, all who scored generally lower at official championships suddenly get a massive scoring boost!
Go figure!
The referee is russian, the technical panel is russian, ukranian and israeli
The judges are from Poland, Switzerland, Azerbaijan, Russia, Ukraine, Austria, Italy and Finland
After the short dance the azerbaijanis take the lead (they miraculously improved by nearly 10 points since their last Grans Prix. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN). The Germans got marked fairly and are in second, The italians are third, the Slovakians are in 4th, Hungarians 5th, Estonians 6th, Ukranians 7th, Swiss 8th, Italians 9th and polish team 10th, finnish team 11th
Now the team in 12th place decisively beaten several of these teams at the Nebelhorn trophy. Before this comp they scored in thr 50s and for some reason they got 44pts for their short dance. The slovakians, hungarians, ukranians, estonians, finnish and polish teams should not have been scored so high, especially since most of these teams scored as low as the high 30s for their short dance at Nebelhorn.
These results are a joke!
Compare this to the azerbaijanis who managed to score so much higher than they should've- abovemthe germans who in my opinion are better skaters than them.
The judges are from Poland, Switzerland, Azerbaijan, Russia, Ukraine, Austria, Italy and Finland
After the short dance the azerbaijanis take the lead (they miraculously improved by nearly 10 points since their last Grans Prix. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN). The Germans got marked fairly and are in second, The italians are third, the Slovakians are in 4th, Hungarians 5th, Estonians 6th, Ukranians 7th, Swiss 8th, Italians 9th and polish team 10th, finnish team 11th
Now the team in 12th place decisively beaten several of these teams at the Nebelhorn trophy. Before this comp they scored in thr 50s and for some reason they got 44pts for their short dance. The slovakians, hungarians, ukranians, estonians, finnish and polish teams should not have been scored so high, especially since most of these teams scored as low as the high 30s for their short dance at Nebelhorn.
These results are a joke!
Compare this to the azerbaijanis who managed to score so much higher than they should've- abovemthe germans who in my opinion are better skaters than them.
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its a B competition, scores will always be inflated !
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