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    Carolina Kostner 2013-14 season

    Hi everybody,
    Considering the poor showing of Carolina Kostner at Cup of china this weekend, I wanted to hear some thoughts on her new programs, what are her chances and how she could improve during the rest of the season.

    I have read some comments that she should go back to her previous 2012-13 programs...do you think it would be the right strategy or she should concentrate on improving what she has on her hands now?

    My personal opinion is that the poor technical showing has made the programs even less appealing, but that overall it almost seems like she reserved the less suitable programs to her for the olympic season
    Almost as if Lori Nichol did not put the same amount of thought into choosing the music...and it seems very strange.

    Do you think her team has realized the weakness of the programs? Oris it just everybody's impression because she was not skating clean?

    Should she compete at some B competitions to gain some experience?

    No bashing necessary

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    She isn't a great early season skater. But she is also getting older so it wouldn't surprise me if she is unable to reach her peak form at all this season. Her programs this season are fine to me, but I have never considered any of her programs masterpieces. If she doesn't win a medal it won't be because her programs aren't good enough, but rather because she will have made too many errors.

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    Technically, her age has caught up with her WHEN she is on the competitive ice. And seeing what she has to contend with with skaters 10 years younger than she is must be daunting. Her coach's explanation for her showing in the short was strange considering how long she has been around. She was lucky to make the podium at COC, but I guess, for whatever reasons, the judges will continue to use the second mark to keep her there.

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    Her costume is worse than her program, and that's saying something. But she'll probably change it and I'm sure Lori will tweak her LP.

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    I read somewhere that she had a minor injury early this season. I was hoping to see interesting programmes from her but I think both the short and free are pretty disappointing. What was Lori thinking when she created these programmes... The costumes were quite awful too (luckily she is going to change her FS dress). I like Caro a lot, I hope she gets her confidence back and skates well in Sochi.

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    I have no info about her physical condition, but she looked slow. Both in SP and LP. The programs didn't really accentuate her skating either. Without speed and edge work which are her forte, it's just....
    I loved her SP costume but hated her LP costume.
    Both of her programs were a bit of disappointment for me. I expected her SP would be similar to her Canon which I really liked, but it is not.
    My main problem with Caro is that often times her expression feels too one dimensional(I don't think this is the right word but English is not my mother tongue and I can't think of better word right now). For example, last year's SP's 'OMG is that blood in my hand?!(or was it *** has happened with my fingers?!)' look didn't really appeal to me. And this year's SP, is she channeling to Disney princess who is the friend of insects and animals? Her 'Birdy, birdy, where are you?! Oh there you are!' mime also..... felt a little childish to me.
    Her LP is not bad, but definitely it's not gonna be her signature piece or signature Sheherazade either.
    I think she'd better get back to last year's programs. At least I found her very attractive in Bolero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gourry View Post
    I have no info about her physical condition, but she looked slow. Both in SP and LP. The programs didn't really accentuate her skating either. Without speed and edge work which are her forte, it's just....
    I loved her SP costume but hated her LP costume.
    Both of her programs were a bit of disappointment for me. I expected her SP would be similar to her Canon which I really liked, but it is not.
    My main problem with Caro is that often times her expression feels too one dimensional(I don't think this is the right word but English is not my mother tongue and I can't think of better word right now). For example, last year's SP's 'OMG is that blood in my hand?!(or was it *** has happened with my fingers?!)' look didn't really appeal to me. And this year's SP, is she channeling to Disney princess who is the friend of insects and animals? Her 'Birdy, birdy, where are you?! Oh there you are!' mime also..... felt a little childish to me.
    Her LP is not bad, but definitely it's not gonna be her signature piece or signature Sheherazade either.
    I think she'd better get back to last year's programs. At least I found her very attractive in Bolero.
    That's exactly what I meant!
    I can understand Carolina might not be everyone's cup of tea, but at least the past 2 seasons programs were memorable both in terms of music choice built on her strenghts and also on choreography! I feel like these will be her least remembered programs in the years to come...
    If I were her I would want to finish with a bang!

    I agree with you that Canon is "pure carolina" - and I would put Mozart's lp from her winning worlds on the same page.

    Should she go back to last season's programs? Do you think Carolina and her team are not aware of this faux pas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikakiks View Post
    Hi everybody,
    Considering the poor showing of Carolina Kostner at Cup of china this weekend, I wanted to hear some thoughts on her new programs, what are her chances and how she could improve during the rest of the season.

    I have read some comments that she should go back to her previous 2012-13 programs...do you think it would be the right strategy or she should concentrate on improving what she has on her hands now?

    My personal opinion is that the poor technical showing has made the programs even less appealing, but that overall it almost seems like she reserved the less suitable programs to her for the olympic season
    Almost as if Lori Nichol did not put the same amount of thought into choosing the music...and it seems very strange.
    No bashing from me...love the skater and love her seemingly gentle soul.

    These are my impressions from Cup of China:
    http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...l=1#post783673

    I prefer when skaters try to come up with new programs because it's just more interesting and exciting. I admit that her SP is a let-down compared to some of her past works, but I hope she works with Lori to continue tweaking and improving it rather than going back to some previous programs.

    I agree with you that her poor technical showing at this particular competition contributed to the lackluster reception. I think the LP has more potential and will be better-appreciated if skated cleaner (and with a new costume that shows off her lean, beautiful physique instead of covering it up with frump...the black Bolero costume did just that!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by prettykeys View Post
    No bashing from me...love the skater and love her seemingly gentle soul.

    These are my impressions from Cup of China:
    http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...l=1#post783673

    I prefer when skaters try to come up with new programs because it's just more interesting and exciting. I admit that her SP is a let-down compared to some of her past works, but I hope she works with Lori to continue tweaking and improving it rather than going back to some previous programs.

    I agree with you that her poor technical showing at this particular competition contributed to the lackluster reception. I think the LP has more potential and will be better-appreciated if skated cleaner (and with a new costume that shows off her lean, beautiful physique instead of covering it up with frump...the black Bolero costume did just that!)
    I remember last year Lori went to Ob for three days before worlds. STILL, she did not changed the program completely; they worked on details.

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    I expected more from Carolina, seeing what she has produced at 2013 Worlds.. but seeing her at CoC.....she first needs to change her costume.

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    Her LP was pretty enjoyable, if a bit generic.
    But she will probably need a hard 3-3 (flip or lutz) combo and better consistency on those 3's to medal if the other top girls are near clean.

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    I LOVE HER but am disappointed. The sp costume is different. something maybe better for Mao who is a butterfly. I hope she gets it together, she is so amazing when on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikakiks View Post
    Hi everybody,
    Considering the poor showing of Carolina Kostner at Cup of china this weekend, I wanted to hear some thoughts on her new programs, what are her chances and how she could improve during the rest of the season.

    I have read some comments that she should go back to her previous 2012-13 programs...do you think it would be the right strategy or she should concentrate on improving what she has on her hands now?

    My personal opinion is that the poor technical showing has made the programs even less appealing, but that overall it almost seems like she reserved the less suitable programs to her for the olympic season
    Almost as if Lori Nichol did not put the same amount of thought into choosing the music...and it seems very strange.

    Do you think her team has realized the weakness of the programs? Oris it just everybody's impression because she was not skating clean?

    Should she compete at some B competitions to gain some experience?

    No bashing necessary
    Carolina tends to build up nicely as the season progresses, and for any skater they build on there previous performance look at the feedback and make changes to levels or choreography or in some instances change jump layout or if they have time change music all together.

    Like some of the bloggers here, her programs of the past 4 years I would say from 2010 are her best. I actually love the Humoresque SP, not something you usually here from the skaters and I love the dress and some nuances to the music. The LP not to sure about, the costume is ok but its not Carolina. I would have chosen a piano or violin concerto for her LP, its early days so lets see what happens, Carolina does have a tendency to change her costumes and sometimes that makes the difference - I would have gone for slim lined oriental themed green and gold dress with hints of blue... If she would have to change her LP I think she would have to go back to Bolero - that was to die for and ideal music for the Olympics. The Mozart program she should leave as that should stand alone for her stellar season and world title, although equally i love it I would not want to tarnish it.

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