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Asada's 3A: underrotated or not?

David21

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Jan 24, 2004
A better question would be is her 3A ever rotated? The answer is absolutely, she's done it many many times but you know there are those who will never admit that.


Maybe in practice but in competition I don't think I've ever seen a clean, fully rotated triple axel from her.
 

CarneAsada

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Sep 17, 2011
So you're saying none of her triple axels have been cleanly rotated? So all three 3A in Vancouver weren't clean and fully rotated?! :unsure:
Well, this is coming from the same person who considers every jump in her GPF SP underrotated and calls her jumps "small" because they don't match Midori and Tonya's height (Mao's jumps have sometimes lacked distance, but never height, so :confused:). I guess some people have higher standards.
 

David21

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So you're saying none of her triple axels have been cleanly rotated? So all three 3A in Vancouver weren't clean and fully rotated?! :unsure:


I have watched Asada's SP from Vancouver for you again and yeah, her triple axel there looked quite good and fully (or almost fully) rotated. Too bad the same cannot be said about the double toeloop directly after it.
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

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I have watched Asada's SP from Vancouver for you again and yeah, her triple axel there looked quite good and fully (or almost fully) rotated. Too bad the same cannot be said about the double toeloop directly after it.

Both jumps were most definitely fully rotated (as in within the requisite 1/4 rotation). Clearly you have it in for her and I'm surprised you actually admitted that her 3A was good and fully rotated.
 

David21

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Both jumps were most definitely fully rotated (as in within the requisite 1/4 rotation). Clearly you have it in for her and I'm surprised you actually admitted that her 3A was good and fully rotated.


I have it for underrotation and proper jumping technique (which Mao doesn't have). "Fully rotated" does not mean the jumps is not lacking more than 1/4 rotation (which gets downgraded by the technical specialists). "Fully rotated" means that the jumps is lacking no more than 1/8 rotation at most. Anything else should be deducted by the judges.
 

minze

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Dec 22, 2012
I have it for underrotation and proper jumping technique (which Mao doesn't have). "Fully rotated" does not mean the jumps is not lacking more than 1/4 rotation (which gets downgraded by the technical specialists). "Fully rotated" means that the jumps is lacking no more than 1/8 rotation at most. Anything else should be deducted by the judges.
You sound like a broken record. We get it you know more than the callers
 

minze

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And people with Mao in their avatar certainly know best ;)

If you don't have any arguments, spare me your posts.

Oh snap. People with Mao avatar are not allowed to comment. Opps. I did not know. I do have something to comment: the callers have spoken, get over it.
 

David21

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Oh snap. People with Mao avatar are not allowed to comment. Opps. I did not know. I do have something to comment: the callers have spoken, get over it.


And I will continue to point out Asada's blatant underrotations which the judges and her über-fans are chosing to overlook. :) Get over it.
 

CarneAsada

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Oh snap. People with Mao avatar are not allowed to comment. Opps. I did not know. I do have something to comment: the callers have spoken, get over it.
"The callers" also gave < to her triple Axel in the SP. I think it's fair to question calls for being either overly strict or overly lenient. Though I question the point of calling a jump "underrotated" when it's a 1/8 turn short - you could just as well say it's underrotated when it's 10° short too.
 

minze

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Dec 22, 2012
And I will continue to point out Asada's blatant underrotations which the judges and her über-fans are chosing to overlook. :) Get over it.

Yes, continue to that. Better yet at the Olympic have a rally or protest against Mao and her under rotations. Your chant could be say No to Mao or We must stop Mao, her under rotations are ruining the world.:laugh:
 

minze

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"The callers" also gave < to her triple Axel in the SP. I think it's fair to question calls for being either overly strict or overly lenient. Though I question the point of calling a jump "underrotated" when it's a 1/8 turn short - you could just as well say it's underrotated when it's 10° short too.

Yes question it, but to keep repeating over and over Mao's jumps were under rotated is annoying. We got it the first time
 
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