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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    I'm just saying at this point why are I/K still in the sport?
    I know, right? Shameful! Taking that spot away from all the better Russian teams out there! And when they are only capable of scoring 171.89 at their BEST!

    Ok sorry, had to get it out of my system. I'll be good now.

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    I&K were very impressive in TEB. They have worked hard to improve their fluidity and every element. Over 102 points; their TES and PCS are almost matching now. Congrats, they are back on track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Russian dance is so strange right now. They are producing many World Junior winners, and all go Senior and do nothing. Coaching seems bad, choreography seems outdated, and they just don't seem to get anywhere. When V&M and D&W retire things will be fairly open again, but right now the Russians seem in no position to capatilize that much.
    I was wondering about that too.

    Past results from junior worlds:

    2010
    1. Elena Ilinykh / Nikita Katsalapov,
    3. Ksenia Monko / Kirill Khaliavin
    6. Ekaterina Pushkash / Jonathan Guerreiro

    2011
    1. Ksenia Monko / Kirill Khaliavin
    2. Ekaterina Pushkash / Jonathan Guerreiro
    6. Evgenia Kosigina / Nikolai Moroshkin

    2012
    1. Victoria Sinitsina / Ruslan Zhiganshin
    2. Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin
    4. Anna Yanovskaia / Sergei Mozgov

    2013
    1. Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin
    4. Valeria Zenkova / Valerie Sinitsin
    6. Evgenia Kosigina / Nikolai Moroshkin

    Results from JGPF:
    JGPF
    season 2009-2010
    1 Ksenia Monko / Kirill Khaliavin
    2 Elena Ilinykh / Nikita Katsalapov
    5 Ekaterina Pushkash / Jonathan Guerreiro
    8 Marina Antipova / Artem Kudashev

    season 2010-2011
    1 Ksenia Monko / Kirill Khaliavin
    2 Victoria Sinitsina / Ruslan Zhiganshin
    3 Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin
    4 Ekaterina Pushkash / Jonathan Guerreiro
    6 Evgenia Kosigina / Nikolai Moroshkin
    8 Marina Antipova / Artem Kudashev

    season 2011-2012
    1 Victoria Sinitsina / Ruslan Zhiganshin
    2 Anna Yanovskaia / Sergei Mozgov
    3 Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin

    2012-2013
    1 Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin
    4 Anna Yanovskaia / Sergei Mozgov
    5 Valeria Zenkova / Valerie Sinitsin
    6 Evgenia Kosigina / Nikolai Moroshkin

    In the last few years there seems to be quite a few Russian dance couples getting into JGPF, a Russian dance couple winning junior worlds, usually the lowest from three Russian couples attending junior worlds are no worse than sixth, but where are they in seniors? It seems to me that it is much harder to push through now than a few years ago, because after the last Olympics no top dance couples retired. But that still doesn't explain why neither of them are catching up at least Riazanova-Tkachenko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    In the last few years there seems to be quite a few Russian dance couples getting into JGPF, a Russian dance couple winning junior worlds, usually the lowest from three Russian couples attending junior worlds are no worse than sixth, but where are they in seniors? It seems to me that it is much harder to push through now than a few years ago, because after the last Olympics no top dance couples retired. But that still doesn't explain why neither of them are catching up at least Riazanova-Tkachenko.
    DomShab, DelShoes, B/A, F/S, the Kerrs... I'd say a couple top dance couples did retire after 2010 (or 2011).

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    The junior Russian dance teams dominated JGP because they met with even less impressive competition from North America. The real question is, who is going to be the face of NA dance after V/M and D/W? Right now, of all the junior dance teams on JWC podium from 2011-13, Papadakis/Cizeron is the only team I see some promise and possible longevity from.

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    Hawayek & Baker, McNamara & Carpenter from the US this year, and there are a lot of good Canadian kids as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyLex View Post
    DomShab, DelShoes, B/A, F/S, the Kerrs... I'd say a couple top dance couples did retire after 2010 (or 2011).
    You are right, a few couples did, but those completely at the top stayed on. (V-M, D-W). And a few others may not have been completely at the top but are definitely more established than those who currently leave junior ranks (Pechalat-Bourzat, Capellini-Lanotte). It still seem to me that there is not much movement within rankings in ice dance.

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    Nikita Katsalapov finally controlled his speed at TEB therefore less sloppy errors and an overall more balanced program. They didn't look like they were rushing around but still had good speed. Russian Nationals and Euros will be fascinating to see if I/K can win both. If so, they definitely will be aiming for the podium in Sochi.

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    Let’s stop talking about finishing skating or anything like that, I think I long as somebody wants to skate as long he/she is allowed to do that….

    Propaganda of Lena and Pantene (and maybe sport too)..
    Pantene adds:
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    Spot about thank to mom from P&G with Lena
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCEt-ZSxGBE
    (confused why isn’t Nikita in it too, Bobrova had the same add and she and her mum took Dima as a team member ???), interesting watching Morozov doing lifts with Lena

    Last photoshot…. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=fwt7pt&s=5

    Elena already did such work in 2012 for Men’s Health:
    http://www.mhealth.ru/sex/obekt-zhel...-elena-ilinyx/ (video)
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    Read an interview with Tarasova where she noticed that it is a pity that I&K are not in GPF and that they started to love hard work.

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    I saw them live at TEB and all I can say is WOW. Hope they will be Russia's new #1.

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    Morozov, creepy

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    I know, right? Shameful! Taking that spot away from all the better Russian teams out there! And when they are only capable of scoring 171.89 at their BEST!

    Ok sorry, had to get it out of my system. I'll be good now.
    Sarcasm???

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    I think I and k have huge potential and could even medal at world's or olympics eventually - if they work hard on their technicque and clean up their skating they really are a marvelous pair - actually I think if they had one more year they wouldhave challenged for an Oly medal - in fact they still could medal - if they get ahead of BS and cna challenge W and P, C and L, the second American team and P and B of course.

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    They didn't win the euros sd they were supposed to.

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    not this thread again

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