You are slandering many of us here, "not bothering to inform yourself about the context or about the character of the person, and then pouring their hate and ignorance all over us", look in a mirror, seriously.
I don't know GG personally, unlike you it seems, and I only take her at her words and deeds, nothing else. I am pointing out how those who might feel offended see her tweet. That is "pouring hate and ignorance all over GG", a PC Nazi beyond redemption? So are you answering on her behalf now, how she might perceive those who minded her tweet?
"Unwashed masses"?? Please tell me all about them.
The joke is not the problem if she had joked about "Only one sandwich", we'll laugh along with the off-rink capers, it appears to have escaped you that the problem is making a joke of Mao's non-existent accent, "Onry one sandwrich", because you know, Asians have such funny accents, haha. She said so "solly" , so what der ploblem, light?
Please, mind your crude manners and nasty, foul language. We've all been participating in the discourse in a civilized fashion.
Thanks for your replies, loopy and Mathman. Just nice to know someone's there.
Mao is naturally gentle and open-minded, and I'm pretty sure that she won't let this affect her.
I sincerely hope that the skaters can concentrate on skating to do their best for Sochi.
What Gracie posted was in bad taste and derogatory. Period. It doesn't really matter whether she had "malice". It is about how a statement can be perceived by the recipient (in this case, the entire Internet audience). This is the key - she didn't say this directly to Mao in a friendly jest --- rather, she chose to post it so the entire world can read this.
James R, sorry, but you are presumptuous.
JamesR, I take many issues with your posts.
But first I will note:
It is quite telling and highly ironic that you openly acknowledge being guilty of the same supposed deficiencies for which you hurl scathing criticism at others -- and which you call unforgivable.
Just about everyone in this thread has been well aware all along of both the primary One More Sandwich video (and how the title relates to the plot) and the secondary behind-the-scenes video. You had no need to patronize us by recapping the vid.
And contrary to what you would have us believe:
- Gold's original tweet was not a neutral reference to the title of the vid.
- The context therefore was not nearly as simple as you pretend.
Gracie made a reference in fun, to a comedy video she participated in with Mao. Her only error was not realizing how many people would not understand the context. All of you who disagree with this, after being presented the facts, are simply beyond hope.
You can bully, gang up, and scream all you want. Screaming in unison does not constitute a rational argument. Majority doesn't dictate logic.
You are the ones who are prejudiced. You are the ones screaming hate at another. Not Gracie.
Some people here seem to come dangerously close to being apologists for clearly racist remarks, *jokes*, or behavior.
Earlier I was going to start in on why the makers of the video weren't similarly being attacked, even moreso. I quickly realized why - because they're not white!
So because the video makers aren't white, they are exempt from being called racist for creating the video content. And because Gracie is white (and worse yet has blond hair!), she's automatically a racist for simply quoting it in fun.
Isn't it racist for the Shibutanis to be making fun of asian English speakers, regardless of their own race? No? What if they had created it, put it on youtube and you didn't KNOW who created it. You'd then conclude that it must be racist against asians. But, since asians created it, it ISN'T racist against asians. Therefore, you are making the argument that context matters. Yet, you say context DOESN'T matter when it's a white girl referencing the video. HER context in referencing this video isn't relevant. She's white and therefore she's racist. Or if not racist, she's a horrible insensitive person who needs to be publicly punished by you, The Moral Authority (sic.)
Like I said. Beyond redemption.
It's interesting to me to read that James R (obviously a mega fan of GG) is accusing posters of "screaming hate" towards Gracie. What a vitriolic reaction to simple posts on a figure skating forum. This past summer, while watching that online interview of Ashley Wagner by Jennifer and Dave, (in which she described some of the incredibly OTT nasty emails she received following Nationals '13), I wondered who the heck would be so outraged that AW beat out GG for the national championship that (s)he would want to generate such emotionally charged (hmmm...dare I say "screaming hate") emails.
Furthermore, when I say the context didn't matter, I was countering the defense that that so many users seem to be using, that it's a private joke which they are apparently supporting by pointing out the public videos. Your argument seems to assume that all the audience that's in the know, unlike those "screaming haters," seems to have come to an overall consensus that there was indeed a private joke when in fact, as this thread's length indicates, there appears to be dissent even among those who had originally seen the videos. Furthermore, I doubt many of us have deep insight into the nature of Mao and Gracie's relationship and can scarcely verify the existence of this alleged good-will teasing, as you and others seem to suggest. This ambiguity, coupled with the video's broad audience and Twitter's public nature is why Gracie has come under criticism.
Also, if you want to make a valid argument, might I suggest you refrain from using ad hominem attacks to divert attention away from the issue being discussed? This might shock your refined sensibilities, but an argument based on condescending on all those that disagree with you is scarcely persuasive.
James R. why do you say that the Shibutanis are making fun of Mao?, it is ridiculous, if you want to defend to GG it is ok, but smear the Shibs is too much , it is not their fault that GG made a mistake