Plushenko might have second thoughts about competing in Sochi after watching what Chan and Hanyu just laid down at TEB.
Why? At worst he can still get team medal.
Plushenko might have second thoughts about competing in Sochi after watching what Chan and Hanyu just laid down at TEB.
I agree. Does "Russian style" mean lack of choreography?
Plushenko might have second thoughts about competing in Sochi after watching what Chan and Hanyu just laid down at TEB.
And I don't get this. At all. Who are these people? Who will ONLY allow Plushenko's injuries to affect his skating - but NO ONE else's? Do you mean like - ever? So, again, I honestly don't know, don't understand, don't "get" who these people are to whom you refer? So I cannot make sweeping judgements about them, nor will I try to defend them. I can only speak for myself. And to me, what you claim is utterly... bizarre. We discuss injuries and their relation to skaters' performances on a regular basis on this forum, surely?
Plushenko has won COR and GPF multiple times, at this point of his career why even bother Cor, a competition so close to the previous one wouldnt offer him anything in terms of preparation. From 2005 he picked one GP event and that was it.
I dont know if he will compete or medal but I would bet anything that Plushenko wouldnt skate this kind of sp in Sochi
Injuries can certainly affect a performance, I'm not denying that. But it seems that Plushenko is held to some standard that if he makes errors then those are automatically chalked up to injury/not being healthy, and if he does well it's in spite of injury. As if it's unimaginable that he could make errors, like any other skater.
I get that his injuries can affect him, but I don't take that into consideration when he skates or when any other injured skater skates. Plenty of skaters skate injured all the time, and if they compete it is because they feel they are capable of performing well. If they make errors, the injury can play a part, but it shouldn't be the fallback excuse.
It seems, you don't know his career. He won many titles when he was injury. He isn't a cry baby.
Plushenko might have second thoughts about competing in Sochi after watching what Chan and Hanyu just laid down at TEB.
I wasn't implying that he is. And I'm aware that, like many other skaters, Plushenko has competed while injured and won. I'm saying his ubers are quick to dismiss any mistakes of his as merely due to injury, instead of the accepting the notion that he can make mistakes like any other skater.
I don't think he would back down from Sochi. But with his programs the way they are and with being not fully recovered, and with stiff competition at Cup of Russia, it makes sense for him to withdraw.
I do not get these comments! Olympics has the toughest and is the biggest competition. And that is his goal. So he's avoiding cor because of competition but wants to go to the Olympics?
Not true! When someone has spinal disc surgery after an event I can say his problems were because of injury. Not his double lutz at cor 2009 or double in euros 2010 or Turin 2006. Falling on a 3a is astonishingly rare for plushenko! He's not Patrick Chan where you expect it.
I wasn't implying that he is. And I'm aware that, like many other skaters, Plushenko has competed while injured and won. I'm saying his ubers are quick to dismiss any mistakes of his as merely due to injury, instead of the accepting the notion that he can make mistakes like any other skater.
If you read the thread backwards I think none of his fans implied he doesnt do mistakes, on the contrary I would say. Plushenko did and does mistakes in his programs but this showing was after a spine surgery so I m wondering what exactly people were waiting to see? Yes sure he is not skating like Chan is now and never will but on that account nobody else skates like Chan so whats the point of competing against him? There might be a lot of reasons for Plu to skate in Sochi besides who is capable of what, and the condition of the other skaters should not be his worry now.
Statistically Plushenko is not falling down just because so it only normal to think he might have issues to fall on a 3axel for example at Euros. This time he did better than Euros so that means their surgery might have been successful. If you see his lp he is happy at the end, meaning this stage of his preparation was good for his team. He is not a seasoned skater and even for them we tend to say Oh they didnt peak at Gp etc, so let Plushenko peak where he wants to. Speaking for myself, I m just not really having to comment on anything , it was clearly a test skate for them, the first after months in a B event.
Um, he himself said that the fall on the 3A in Euros 2013 was not because of injury, and yet his fans were adamant that it was. He was landing triple axels and 3Z-3T in the practices before Euros, so clearly he was still capable of cleanly landing them, even if he was injured.
Would you say his tripled quad and 3Z-2T at Volvo Cup were due to injury or "legitimate" mistakes?
He doubled the Salchow :yes:Regarding the Volvo competition- Weren't those planned? I wasn't aware they were mistakes.