11-16-2013, 07:28 AM
I have to say that most times I can't really understand I/K PCS: SS should be their best mark without any doubt... Is their IN really better than their speed, edges etc.?
11-16-2013, 08:16 AM
He is amazing indeed, but her lines are all over the place. Her skating is messy and sloppy. He desperately needs a new partner.
Originally Posted by museksk8r
V/M were great. I don't particularly like jazzy programs and this one is not my cup of tea, but it is very strong. However, they shouldn't let the situation build a false sense of confidence - D/W scored much lower at NHK, but they dropped a level on their twizzles, something they normally never do and they had 2 other level 3s. Right now it looks the SD scores will be very close between the teams. It will all go down to whoever hits their levels.
11-16-2013, 08:30 AM
Glad there are some Americans who can appreciate the true ice dancers regardless of their nationalities. About bigsisjiejie, she has been around on other boards, too. I think she is American. If she's not, she sure sounds like one, just leave it there.
Originally Posted by golden411
11-16-2013, 11:23 AM
Oh God how I hate people referring to VM as "the true ice dancers", implying DW are not What is your deal? How are DW any less of ice dancers than VM? Who gets to decide whether a team's skating is "true" ice dancing and another team's is not? Last time I checked there was no definition of "true" ice dancing, so it really is a matter of taste/opinion.
11-16-2013, 11:39 AM
ITA. It seems to me that the judges think they dance just fine, considering they have TWO world championship medals!! It is thanks to V/M's "fans" that I can barely stand to watch them skate anymore.
Originally Posted by SimplyLex
11-16-2013, 11:49 AM
It just shows how the politicking works. And no surprise D/W fans avoid the reality as much as possible.
Originally Posted by semosk8tfan
11-16-2013, 12:01 PM
Well as usual the V/M ubers completely miss the point. I never said I didn't like V/M; actually I love them. I just don't particularly think this SD is all that great given what we've seen in the past from them. I don't care for their FD this season either. Letdowns. But I've loved some of their past programs. And just to be even-handed, I don't care for D/W's programs this season either. D/W's SD is cute but I'll forget about it once the season is over, and I'm not a fan of Scheherezade, largely because I've always loathed the music. Again, letdowns. Maybe I was expecting too much of both these teams for this Olympic season, so what they're both putting out there now seems so.....anticlimactic even though it's all competently skated. Competent is not the same as transcendent. And if any of you think what V/M (or D/W) are doing is transcendent, you are easy to please.
11-16-2013, 12:22 PM
LOL! And some people see only what they want to see and believe only what they want to believe. USFS is particularly lousy at "politicking."
Originally Posted by apple123
11-16-2013, 08:04 PM
V/M made DRASTIC changes to their SD at this competition, they've rearranged their music and choreography, almost 40% different from the last competition. They have extended the first music cut to include the twizzles, leaving the last section all closed hold dancing.
I''m surprised no one commented on these rather major changes. But then again, I wonder if some of these commenters even bothered to actually watch their earlier SD
11-17-2013, 02:30 PM
Does anyone know of a link to the same version as the FIRST song in Ilinykh/Katsalapov's SD? (Bei Mir Bist Du Schön) If anybody does, that would be super helpful and very kind
11-17-2013, 03:01 PM
Skating is art, if you let it be.
I preferred the program at Skate Canada. The placement of the twizzles made more sense in that version and the lift in that program was also better, IMO. I dislike Scott's arm positions in the new lift.
Originally Posted by Matt K
11-17-2013, 03:40 PM
^ I liked the original better but maybe this will grow on me..
11-17-2013, 03:43 PM
Depends on the mood of the judging panel, the position of the moon and all that jazz.
Originally Posted by FSGMT