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    Quote Originally Posted by 96skiluvr View Post
    Kill me if you want for saying this but: to me, D/R are just so sloppy and unpolished. World bronze medalists, really? Over M-T/M? Every jump is sloppy, the set-ups are wayyyy to long for a top team, the SS have not improved, and to me, the music is just generic dramatic movie music I've heard 100 times purposefully used to disguise a lack of artistry and get the audience into the ending
    Duhamel/Radford's basics aren't very good but there are a lot of positive aspects to their skating.

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    WOOOO HOOOOO P/T first.

    Of course this means my predictions are beyond redemption...

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    and I'm wrong. lol.

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    If P/T can medal at the Olympics it will be so amazing and grand! It seems like they've still got it; just a rough skate with unfortunate mistakes at the start

    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Disastrous skate for P/T, missed three jumps out of four D/R could still win with that sloppy skate...

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    yes P/T is first
    D/R bronze got to bite them MT-M should easily beat these two in nationals
    B/L are now in No.3 position, S/K are in for Rus No.2 watch their PCS rise further at CoR

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    Wow!!!!! I am not sure what to say. I love P/T so I guess

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    Never thought I'd say it but actually think D/R were LOWBALLED on PCS relative to P/T in TR and CH, especially TR. I am sorry, but if there is one thing D/R can do, it is transitions. CH may be a matter of preference- P/T's is also amazing and much different than D/R- but TR is not a matter of preference.

    Oh well.

    Otherwise I agree with the scoring and placements.

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    It's a bit frustrating to see Pang/Tong have such a huge PCS cushion. Their movement was quite elegant and composed, they've shown decent expression and the element layout didn't seem too bad but I don't think they were that much better than everyone else (they definitely didn't have more TR than D/R - but then: anchoring).

    Quote Originally Posted by sweetskates1 View Post
    If P/T can medal at the Olympics it will be so amazing and grand! It seems like they've still got it; just a rough skate with unfortunate mistakes at the start
    I don't think they've had a single clean performance this season yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Never thought I'd say it but actually think D/R were LOWBALLED on PCS relative to P/T in TR and CH, especially TR. I am sorry, but if there is one thing D/R can do, it is transitions. CH may be a matter of preference- P/T's is also amazing and much different than D/R- but TR is not a matter of preference.

    Oh well.

    Otherwise I agree with the scoring and placements.
    Have you seen the sbs Triple Lutzes - they spend half the rink on those outside edges before a sloppy landing and then crossovers out of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by 96skiluvr View Post
    Have you seen the sbs Triple Lutzes - they spend half the rink on those outside edges before a sloppy landing and then crossovers out of them
    Pretty much every single team has long entries in and out of the jumps (and not just at TEB).

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    At this point, I think MT-M are #1 Canadians. The Russians all blend together in my mind except for V/T. So current overall standings: V/T- 1, S/S- 2, P/T- 3?

    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    yes P/T is first
    D/R bronze got to bite them MT-M should easily beat these two in nationals
    B/L are now in No.3 position, S/K are in for Rus No.2 watch their PCS rise further at CoR

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetskates1 View Post
    At this point, I think MT-M are #1 Canadians. The Russians all blend together in my mind except for V/T. So current overall standings: V/T- 1, S/S- 2, P/T- 3?
    Pang/Tong are not going to win Bronze with those kind of performances unless everybody else bombs as well. Moore-Towers/Moscovitch have scored 208.45 at SA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy View Post
    Pretty much every single team has long entries in and out of the jumps (and not just at TEB).
    This. Also you have to think of TR holistically and relative to other teams. (I don't mean judges should judge them relative to other teams, but once the scores are out there, as a viewer/fan, it is very fair to analyze the PCS of the teams against one another). My beef was not with D/R's TR score, but with their TR score relative to P/T's. What amazing TR did I miss from P/T going in and out of their jumps? Frankly, what amazing TR did I miss in P/T's whole program that would justify them being ahead on this PCS component?

    Please note, I DO NOT like D/R. I don't wish them ill, and am not blind to the good in their skating (like TR) but I am no D/R defender and I sometimes skip watching them because I can't stand it. Conversely, P/T are one of my fave teams, certainly my sentimental favorite. There is still no way a non blind person can think P/T have more TR than D/R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetskates1 View Post
    At this point, I think MT-M are #1 Canadians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetskates1 View Post
    At this point, I think MT-M are #1 Canadians. The Russians all blend together in my mind except for V/T. So current overall standings: V/T- 1, S/S- 2, P/T- 3?
    V/T are a class of their own, but everyone else can be switched D/R have been lack luster, P/T seems the judges are still happy to reward them
    if they can skate clean they can medal in the Olympics, MT-M have better chance than D/R. its S/S and MT-M that are almost tied for second standings

    actually S/K are being pushed ahead of B/L, at a national competition last month they beat B/L with a FS score of 130+ with PCS almost the same

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