Mirai has both flutzed and lipped. She seems to have improved somewhat on the lutz. With time she can get that fixed hopefully as well. Whether the judges will hold skaters up over Mirai, particularly Agnes should she make mistakes again has yet to be seen. Internationally this isn't a danger but at home the USFS seems to have made it clear who their favorites are.
Originally Posted by kwanatic
I think that Mirai CAN keep up with the best of them but she's run out of time to train the triple-triples that she needs to be in the top tier again like she was in 2010. If she stays on after Sochi I totally believe she can keep improving (especially on her expression or lack thereof). She had it once I believe she can get it back again.
I did crunch the numbers back then and I still believe Gracie was held up on PCS - especially in the LP although she STILL deserved to win that portion of the competition. But we're on a merry go round on this one. Everyone's set their mind and no one is going to change it - least of all me. I still say Gracie's PCS in the SP held her up. They were trying to keep her on the podium, especially to get her to top 2 - and they did. Same with Agnes. Her SP score should NOT have placed her 2nd over Mirai.
Originally Posted by kwanatic
The PCS score held her up - and Agnes as well. It's a matter of opinion. I just didn't see Gracie's SP PCS as high as it was after her meltdown. I stand by my opinion that if it had been anyone but the chosen - Gracie, Agnes, Ashley - their PCS would have plummetted and had them out of the top 10. Gracie's PCS scores in the LP were a joke - but I still feel she deserved to win that portion of the competition. In the end the best two went to Worlds and I have no problem with that. I will be ticked off however if mediocre skates are rewarded with high PCS with an Olympic berth on the line. I say 'an' singular because Ashley and Gracie are going to Sochi barring injury. Watch - at least one of the favorites is going to bomb at least one of their programs - and PCS is going to come to the rescue. Again.
Originally Posted by mskater93
Originally Posted by yyyskate
At the rink. Again.
What specific aspects of her PCS score? She scored a 26.34 in PCS for a SP where she had 2 jumping mistakes but didn't give up points on spins or steps. She has excellent SS and TR in comparison to other current US ladies and yet, her PCS at 26.34 was just 0.05 points higher than Caroline Zhang (!!) in the SP last year at Nationals. She was scored behind Gao, Nagasu, Zawadski, and Wagner in PCS and ahead of Cesario, Siraj, Miller, Cain, Wang, and Hicks (and Zhang, Wang, and Cain) if we are going to look at the entire top 12 from last year. Most of the ones she scored ahead of in PCS were in the 24's and 25's, so not appreciable amounts. Of the top 12, Wagner was clean and Cesario was clean, but neither of them landed a 3+3 (Wagner was really the only one who could afford to not do a 3+3 of all the US ladies) while Zawadski was 2nd with a 2A fall, Nagasu got a L2 on her CCoSp, Hicks got 3T<, Gao had a FSSp2 fall, Siraj had 3T <, Miller had 3 Lo << who finished ahead of Gold and Wang had 3Lz fall (10th), Cain 3S < (11th), and Zhang 3Lo <+3Lo << (12th). Like I said, relative to the field, where was she overscored? Look at what she's pulling in internationally, too...
In the LP, PCS went as follows: Wagner 65.82, Gold 61.35, Zawadski 61.14, Nagasu 60.56, Gao 58.24, Siraj 56.95, Cesario 55.82, Miller 55.20, Hicks 54.58, Wang 53.99, Zhang 53.62 and Cain 53.02. Cesario suffered a little in PCS in the LP as she skated right after Gold who skated like she had a rocket on her back and a firecracker up her butt, but not that it would have made a huge difference for Cesario. Zawadski was VERY close to Gold in PCS in the LP and yet, she had a mess of a second half of that program, and Nagasu was under a point less and she looked like a zombie due to the flu. Gao is a pleasant enough skater, but doesn't have the same power. Again, relative to the field, how was she overscored?
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