But by removing the 3-3 which is probably exhausting, and if she has to work on the 3-3 less she can work on improving stamina and maintaining power. I mean last season for the GP she was probably told to go clean and powerful, and she powered through the whole thing like it was nothing, mainly because of the 2A-2T rather than the tiring 2A-3T. It may sound like I'm oversimplifying it but I think having less of a crucial element like the 3-3 and a more spread out value will make her slightly more calm when she skates.Note that at Ashley's GP events this year, she has messed up her final jumping pass(es). So I fail to see how she would benefit from *adding* another jumping pass to the second half, let alone a triple-2A sequence. It can't be more obvious that she's reached the peak of how ambitious her 2nd half can be, if she's making errors with less content than what BoP has suggested.
Please explain how if in her first two GP events she makes errors in her final jumping pass(es) somehow adding a triple-2A will be more successful. And I don't buy that doing a 3F-2L-2L instead of a 3F-3T saves her enough energy to add a triple and a double axel in her second half.
this Ashley Wagner who works (and by the look of her lives off of) Taco Bell.
You also STILL haven't given any valid argument ("I don't buy it" does not constitute reasoning) about why you don't think Ashley could do the content, when the ONLY change from her current plan in the second half of the program would be adding 3Toe-2Axel sequence (not that difficult of an element for her), replacing the current Layback spin. And remember, she wouldn't be doing a 3-jump combo in the second half of the program, as she currently plans, AND she wouldn't be doing a 3-3 combo in the first half of the program, which drains her out more heading into the second half than my planned program does. You ignore science and you ignore what Ashley herself has already achieved. I'm not sure why.
It's also annoying to still be talking solely about the technical value of said content, when the program as a whole was the purpose of the thread.
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gp..._FS_Scores.pdf (only 1 double axel sequence)
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gp..._FS_Scores.pdf (2 double axel sequences, both with errors on the 2A)
In the 2009-2010 season (and ever, if I'm not mistaken), only at US nationals did she ever cleanly land both jumps in both sequences.
This season she has yet to cleanly execute 4 triples and a 2A in the second half, and now you want her to do 5 triples and 2 double axels?!
Also, funny how you say I'm disregarding her abilities when you are asking her to abandon her 3F-3T, in favour of a sequence she hasn't even tried before (I mean, when was the last time she did a solo 3T or 3T-combo?). It is painfully obvious she needs to have a XX-3X attempt to compete for bronze, and the 3F-3T has given her moderate success this season. Of course, if sequences weren't 80% value then you might have a legit reason to include two of them, but under current IJS rules it doesn't make sense.
Not to mention the jump layout I proposed is much more balanced, gets more BV than yours, is easier to execute but still ambitious, and is in line with her current program layout and not overhaul it.
As for the 3L-2L, it's 0 GOE quality. Have you even been reading the points made in this thread? Her 3Lo-2A gets more GOE, making it worth considerably more points. It covers more ice, has more pop, and has more flow. This helps to increase the excitement and visual appeal of the performance, improving her PCS. Additionally, having two 2Axel sequences helps to ensure she gets full points for all of her jumping passes even if she makes a mistake. For example, if she were to accidentally step out of her 3T at the end of the program and not be able to do the sequence, she would still get credit for the Triple since she fulfilled her axel requirement for the program earlier with the 3Loop.
Furthermore, you're ignoring the musical changes of the program. That final 3Toe+2Axel is there to synergize with the ever-forward momentum of the "Dance of the Knights" music, which transitions into the piercing musical selection heard in the current program. A spin doesn't work as well there. The one-two punch of this jump sequence gives energetic closure to that entire section of the program and keeps the momentum constantly flowing into the choreographic step sequence.
Ashley should have stayed with Hughes. BOP, have you heard from team Wagner about your suggestions?
Skate Canada (-0.80)
TEB (-1.00 ... and she wasn't able to do the 3rd jump)
Note that in 2008, she had problems with the axel sequence at both her GP events and Junior Worlds. It gave her issues both times she tried it at NHK 2009. Historically, when she's tried two 2A sequences she has not successfully executed both of them way more than she has. Not to mention, asking her to do 2 sequences because she did them years ago is like expecting Mao to be able to do 3-3's again.
It has also been ages since she's done 3T as a solo jump or as the start of a combo/sequence, so how do you even know she's able to? And "it's the easiest triple" isn't a good reason -- Mao has troubles with her 3S and it's easier than a loop or flip, which she's more consistent with.
What a strange thread. And I'm a die-hard Ashley Wagner fan and usually enjoy any discussion about my favourite skater. But why on earth would you want to change the jump lay-out? The 3-3 is actually in pretty good shape, considering it's still early in the season and it was non-existent in Ashley's programs in the past (since 2008 Nats and a rare occurance at 2012 4CC). Her jump lay-out seems fine to me.
The choreography and interpretation of R&J was already much improved at TEB as compared to SA so the best Team Wagner can do is keep working on it, adding more movements and transitions to it. I also miss 'Dance of the Knights' but they made a decision not to skate to music that was typically used in skating - whether or not that was a smart move, that's their take on this program, I doubt it'll change. Her spins need to be faster and add a little more flow and passion to the LP and I think it'll be fine.
Her SP this year is pretty awesome. The more I see it, the more I like it.
As to staying with Hughes? Have you ever watched back to back performances of Ashley under Hughes & Hill (LP Worlds 2008 and SP 2008 COC) - she looks like a completely different skater; so much more graceful, mature, natural flow in the choreography. Hill was a good move at the time. But Ashley lost her 'edge' under Hill after 2010 Nationals. Watch 2011 Nats & 2012 Nats back to back and again - wow!
Team Wagner is fine. The question is, does the US have enough political pull to prevent the judges from dropping Ashley if little Lipnitskaia skates well in front of a home crowd? There's the rub, I think. Looks like Ashley will have to aim for silver to even get the bronze at the Olympics. Either way, she will have to be perfect at the Olympics, but that was always a given. Those are the stakes; the question now is all about who will rise up to the challenge.