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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    At this point S/S should ditch the 3axel. Yes they need it to beat V/T but the Russians are due for a bad skate and if S/S skate clean in Sochi they might win.
    agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    S/S are playing for bronze because of their pesky 3A attemps
    now Pang/Tong will likely win silver

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    Whenever I see Nodari I remember how waisted a talent like Iliushechkina has gone...

    I so much like S/S programs this year, with fall and all they have such personality!

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    Mm yeah, I don't think the Axel is worth it with this sort of a success rate and it's an extremely dangerous move... I think that they should be able to get the 2 points more easily from other parts of their program.

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    For the sake of S/S I hope Aliona was crying from frustration and not pain. This doesn't bode well.

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    i totally agree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    S/S are playing for bronze because of their pesky 3A attemps
    now Pang/Tong will likely win silver
    mmhhhh ... with their sbs-jumps ... never!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    S/S are playing for bronze because of their pesky 3A attemps
    now Pang/Tong will likely win silver
    P/T have their own issues with SBS jumps. I don't think we can declare medals. But the S/S 3A attempts do seem hopeless and I wish that they could find happiness in skating clean even if it doesn't necessarily result in Olympic gold. You never know when V/T might have a disaster skate. It's not likely, but S/S landing that 3A throw on a regular basis seems even less likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gold12345 View Post
    P/T have their own issues with SBS jumps. I don't think we can declare medals yet. But the S/S 3A attempts do seem hopeless and I wish that they could find happiness in skating clean even if it doesn't necessarily result in Olympic gold. You never know when V/T might have a disaster skate. It's not likely, but S/S landing that 3A throw on a regular basis seems even less likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paircheck View Post
    mmhhhh ... with their sbs-jumps ... never!!!
    P/T clean SP easily scores above 70+
    their LP Les Miserables is great program, sure they have issues with SBS with his injuries
    but you saw how judges are still happy to reward them even with mistakes

    atm, P/T are at par with S/S
    I don't get the S/S are at par with V/T

    that's like saying V/M are better than D/W
    when the season speaks for itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    P/T clean SP easily scores above 70+
    their LP Les Miserables is great program, sure they have issues with SBS with his injuries
    but you saw how judges are still happy to reward them even with mistakes

    atm, P/T are at par with S/S
    I don't get the S/S are at par with V/T

    that's like saying V/M are better than D/W
    when the season speaks for itself

    but S/S scores over 70 with this hard fall on the 3 A throw too....

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    PAIRS SHORT PROGRAM - VIDEOS (By Starting Order)

    Warm-Up Group 1

    1. Narumi TAKAHASHI / Ryuichi KIHARA (JPN) Short Program, 2nd Copy
    2. Lindsay DAVIS / Rockne BRUBAKER (USA) Short Program
    3. Julia ANTIPOVA / Nodari MAISURADZE (RUS)
    4. Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM (USA)

    Warm-Up Group 2

    5. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV (RUS) Short Program
    6. Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Dylan MOSCOVITCH (CAN) Short Program
    7. Vera BAZAROVA / Yuri LARIONOV (RUS) Short Program, 2nd Copy
    8. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY (GER) Short Program, 2nd Copy

    RESULT

    Overall Result, Segment Result, Protocols

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    Weird, this girl actually has a really good voice. I wonder what this song is called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shayuki View Post
    Apart from the axel... What's the highest point value throw?(viable)
    In singles & pairs, base values for jumps
    4S 10.5
    3A 8.5
    3Lz 6.0
    3F 5.3

    In pairs, base value for throws
    4S 8.0
    3A 7.5
    3Lz 5.5
    3F 5.5
    3Lo 5.0

    So I ask you-considering that there was only one pair that landed 3ATh a reasonable number of times, should it be work 1 points less than a 3A?

    For that matter, considering that very few 4STh's have been landed, should one be worth 2.5 points less?

    Kudos to Castelli & Shnapir and Savchenko & Szolkowy for going for these difficult elements, but the rewards should be commensurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    In singles & pairs, base values for jumps
    4S 10.5
    3A 8.5
    3Lz 6.0
    3F 5.3

    In pairs, base value for throws
    4S 8.0
    3A 7.5
    3Lz 5.5
    3F 5.5
    3Lo 5.0

    So I ask you-considering that there was only one pair that landed 3ATh a reasonable number of times, should it be work 1 points less than a 3A?

    For that matter, considering that very few 4STh's have been landed, should one be worth 2.5 points less?

    Kudos to Castelli & Shnapir and Savchenko & Szolkowy for going for these difficult elements, but the rewards should be commensurate.
    I agree. I don't understand why they should be worth (relatively) so little. The greater the difficulty, the greater the reward, surely? And the rarity with which they are done speak for how difficult they must be.

    By the way, which pair landed the 3ATh before?

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