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    Are B/S the Rus No.1 ?

    Ice Dancing has always been political, watching the blatant SD at the recent CoR
    it is clear they are still pushing for B/S

    but are they worth it ? Russian Fed is making a big mistake continuing investing in B/S they might realise it will come back to bite them
    B/S have mediocre programs with backwards costumes, I/K maybe inconsistent but if they can get mileage this season their programs are Olympic Bronze medal or even Olympic Silver medal worthy if V/M falter.

    cant say the same for B/S who will probably finish 5th in Olympics at best
    why waste when they can have this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDWI0SnbLA, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oeImGkAij0

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    They are because they are Russian champions and got COR and then got a huge score there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    They are because they are Russian champions and got COR and then got a huge score there.
    68 is not a huge score. Capellini/Lanotte, Weaver/Poje, Ilıinkh/Katsalapov and Pechalat/Bourzat already passed that score.

    I like I/K more than B/S this year. I think they should be No 1.

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    B/S have the world medal and are thus the logical choice for the Russians to push to bronze, even though I prefer I/K. You would almost think in Sochi that W/P and P/B and C/L will all be pushed to 5th and lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    B/S have the world medal and are thus the logical choice for the Russians to push to bronze, even though I prefer I/K. You would almost think in Sochi that W/P and P/B and C/L will all be pushed to 5th and lower.
    I hope not B/S programs this season do not deserve an Olympic medal, if they were smart they should be pushing for I/K who could even content for silver
    besides the TC here was Piseev's wife totally a different Tech Panel by Olympics and none from the Top 5 countries that placed

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    If D/S could win an Olympic bronze with their ridiculous programs in Vancouver, I can totally picture B/S edging out other teams for bronze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    If D/S could win an Olympic bronze with their ridiculous programs in Vancouver, I can totally picture B/S edging out other teams for bronze.
    that was before another revamp of the CoP

    I am baffled by B/S push
    anyone in the right mind after the test skate would know I/K would have better mileage for their Olympics programs

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    The thing with I/K though is judges don't seem to care where they're placed in Russia. Well, if you forget NHK. They are a special team. However they need to skate SUPER CLEAN. The politics involved in Russian ice dance apparently is legendary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bramweld View Post
    The thing with I/K though is judges don't seem to care where they're placed in Russia. Well, if you forget NHK. They are a special team. However they need to skate SUPER CLEAN. The politics involved in Russian ice dance apparently is legendary.
    they were slow in NHK but they were a bit undersscored compared to the Shibs at least should have won bronze
    they got the memo at TEB and beat P/B, a clean I/K would beat P/B, W/P, C/L "if clean" though by Olympics

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    Quote Originally Posted by elif View Post
    68 is not a huge score. Capellini/Lanotte, Weaver/Poje, Ilıinkh/Katsalapov and Pechalat/Bourzat already passed that score.

    I like I/K more than B/S this year. I think they should be No 1.
    Huge in the context of COR. they were given a huge insurmountable lead because they are the insurmountable Russia number ones!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    Huge in the context of COR. they were given a huge insurmountable lead because they are the insurmountable Russia number ones!
    through politicking of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    through politicking of course
    Of course through politicking. Numerous CoR scores for the Russians have been achieved through politicking. Anywhere outside of Russia, Kovtun/Lipnitskaia/Gachinski/Menshov/Tuk and B/S wouldn't have received such high PCS scores.

    (*cue your inevitable mentioning of Osmond* )

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    Of course through politicking. Numerous CoR scores for the Russians have been achieved through politicking. Anywhere outside of Russia, Kovtun/Lipnitskaia/Gachinski/Menshov/Tuk and B/S wouldn't have received such high PCS scores.

    (*cue your inevitable mentioning of Osmond* )
    Julia is consistent and skates clean with better speed and interpretation at CoR , her score were bound to go up
    Kovtun landed 2 quads, Tuk had above her normal SP mess, she got 58 at Euros with 3lz-2t and 3lo step out
    Osmond did what exactly to merit above 60+ at Skate Canad with bad jumps and a fall !!! ?

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    Her score was bound to go up, but not to above 32 points of PCS. And you're even more ridiculous suggesting 75+! Hey, why not 80 if we're throwing scores out there!

    Kovtun is the only one that is marginally justified, because of his two quads. Gachinski/Menshov/Tukt all received personal bests of PCS in spite of errors.

    Even Gosviani equalled her personal best PCS in the SP (at CoC she got 25.55, here she got 25.54), and at Cup of Russia she had 2 falls and a doubled jump!

    This inflation for every Russian in every discipline is so appallingly evident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    Her score was bound to go up, but not to above 32 points of PCS. And you're even more ridiculous suggesting 75+! Hey, why not 80 if we're throwing scores out there!

    Kovtun is the only one that is marginally justified. Gachinski/Menshov/Tukt all received personal bests of PCS in spite of errors. Even Gosviani equalled her personal best PCS in the SP, and she had 2 falls!
    the others were clearly overscored so why did you all lump them ???

    you may hate Julia but she is clean and consistent, she improved her speed and projection for presentation at CoR, you think Julia cant score above 70+ ?
    Tuk got 58 at Euros with a 3lz-2t and a step out 3lo that was with her still lower PCS of 28+, the inflation was ???

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