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    Some one who exceeded your expectations

    To borrow from the thread of someone who was supposed to break through and did not.

    Who has exceeded your expectations as a skater?
    I think maybe Ashley Wanger did anyone expected her to be the #1 U.S lady
    Akiko Suzuki was she expected to one of the best ladies in the world

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    Shizuka Arakawa

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenaj View Post
    Shizuka Arakawa
    People did not expect her to OGM.?

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    I'd say Shizuka too. She didn't seem to be on the list of contenders, mostly because of her inconsistency. One world championship, and then suddenly that stupendous win at such a late age. Certainly Akiko Suzuki as well. In what ought to be the twilight of her career, she's doing her best work. Bravo!

    And let's not forget Paul Wylie.

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    All 3 ladies mentioned definitely did better than expected.

    I don't think anyone expected Oksana Baiul to win Worlds in 1993, either.

    It was a shock when Paul Wylie medalled at the Olympics.

    I never expected Brian Boitano to beat Brian Orser for the OGM in 1988.

    When I look back to 2006, when D&W aged out of juniors with their best finish a third at Jr. Worlds and a 2nd at a JGPF, I wonder how many people thought they would ever be two time World Champions? At the time, the US had Belbin and Agosto, OSMs, Gregory & Petukhov (10th at Worlds), Matthews & Zavozin, Jr World Champions, H&H and S&B, both either Jr World champions or thought to be headed that way. People complained endlessly about Meryl's short legs.

    At the same time, Capellini & LaNotte's best finish was 4th at Jr. Worlds, behind V&M, D&W, and a long lost Russian team. Now they were 3rd in the FD last yea at Worlds, and are European bronze medallistsr.

    Both teams are a testimony to the power of concentration, good coaching, talent, & hard work.

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    ^ P/B only had only been together for two years when they aged out of juniors, with their highest JW finished being 6th.

    Javier Fernandez. He doesn't come from a skating power and he started his career not even making it out of SPs at major events, then climbing up the ranks but still not a real contender. I didn't think he'd have the sort of breakthrough that he did, I remember being pretty shocked when he led after the SP at 2011 Skate Canada.

    Shortly after JW in 2009, I mentioned Yuzuru Hanyu in a forum post here as someone with a lot of potential, but I thought he'd be too young to contend until after Sochi. To see him make so much progress so fast was pretty neat.

    I didn't follow his career when he was young, but considering Brian Joubert had never medalled internationally at any level prior to 2002 Euros, I wonder how many people would have picked him to win ten consecutive Euros medals and six at Worlds (with 3 Euros/1 World titles).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minze2001 View Post
    People did not expect her to OGM.?
    She was around for a long time before she was ever anywhere near an OGM. She skated in Nagano and and was way down in the standings. Who would have thought she would win the gold medal 8 years later?

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    Shizuka has everything it takes to be a champion. She was just so inconsistent.

    Someone with fabulous skating skills, and good jumps, spins, steps, etc... when put all of them together cleanly will win. With Shizuka, you're just waiting for it to happen.

    Someone who exceeded my expectations in a good way is Suzuki.
    Someone who exceeded my expectations in a bad way is Julia. Really, how on earth did someone with tiny jumps, weak skating skills, weak presentation, slow, everything terrible become a contender is beyond wild.
    I would have her PCS in the 40s max compare to other girls. Her GOE is way too generous as well.

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    Joannie Rochette. After she first medalled at Canadian Nationals I thought she might be a solid top-10 skater at Worlds but I never thought she was going to win an Olympic medal. I actually expected Cynthia Phaneuf to stay Canada's #1.

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    Alissa Czisny. Pretty girl, nice spins. Who would have thought that she would win two U.S. championships and a Grand Prix Final.

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    Sarah Hughes and Alexi Urmanov, particularly him winning in that stacked 1994 field.

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    Maria Butyrskaya - she was a head case and she kid of looked "fragile" something about her landings. Liz Manley looked like she would never get it together either. Petrova and Tikinov looked destined to be Susan Lucci's of skating - close but no cigar. Duhamel and Radford winning bronze. The Carruthers.Oksana Baiul kind came out of nowhere. Holly Cook whoever and wherever she is now. ARakawa for sure. Kira Ivanova - she too looked rather weak and fragile if not at times sickly. Paul wylie winning OSM

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    When I look back to 2006, when D&W aged out of juniors with their best finish a third at Jr. Worlds and a 2nd at a JGPF, I wonder how many people thought they would ever be two time World Champions? At the time, the US had Belbin and Agosto, OSMs, Gregory & Petukhov (10th at Worlds), Matthews & Zavozin, Jr World Champions, H&H and S&B, both either Jr World champions or thought to be headed that way. People complained endlessly about Meryl's short legs.
    I still miss G&P, though they would've been overtaken by D&W, I wish they'd left the ice on their terms with a "farewell skate" instead of a fall that took them out and they never really recovered from it. That being said they are doing GREAT things with their EduSkate program. So it worked out nicely for them, and they got to rock it out at the Olys in 2006. And her mom got to see her on Olympic Ice so... overall I guess they didn't have too bad a career competitively.

    Evan Lysacek definitely went further than I thought he would. I was late to the party as a fan of his because I just didn't think he'd ever "have it"... but, well...

    Same for Johnny Weir, first appearance as a senior at the Goodwill Games where he looked like a deer in headlights... his programs were awful (IMO) and the commentators were pumping him up to be the next big thing and I just wasn't seeing it. He didn't meet his full potential, sure, but he definitely did better than I thought he would.

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    Evan Lysacek, Flatt, Weiss, Goebel

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    Excellent thread, the opposite of the one I started! Well, when someone doesn't work out, there's always someone to fill the void!

    I'm trying to think of someone to add. Definitely Paul Wylie is the leader in this category, possibly for all times. I might add Todd Eldredge. He disappeared for a few years and came back--usually when they're gone, they're gone. Jeremy Abbott is someone who'd be in both categories. I'd never heard of him when he won the GPF a few years ago. He was always in the shadow of Johnny and Evan, but burst out as their equal, but still suffered so badly from nerves. Agree about Alissa and Ashley, though I don't know if they succeeded because they were surprisingly good or because they had a void left by those who didn't break through.

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