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    Quote Originally Posted by jenaj View Post
    I hope Mirai isn't reading this thread. She doesn't need a psychologist and the evidence for a rift with her coach is scant. At 20, I hope it is not her last season competing. I remember another skater who skated "stone-faced" and who most people had given up by the time she was 20. Her name is Shizuka Arakawa.
    yes but Shizuka was always stone-faced, it is not the same, Mirai was all smiley, she looked like a very happy girl, something changed. Like someone said it, may be she is only too much concentrated in the technical elements.

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    I am confident that Mirai will know if and when she needs a change of coach and act accordingly.

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    It looks as if Evidente is just "all business" which is really something Mirai needs. If I recall correctly, Evidente and Olson kept Mirai from making a fool of herself in KnC at Nationals last year after the LP. I respect that from both of them. Not sure which of the two said "not here" and both dragged her back past the mixed zone to have a meltdown. Evidente is clearly a no nonsense coach, which, by all accounts, is EXACTLY what she needs. IIRC, Wong made a comment about a lack of work ethic regarding Mirai after their split, so I am unsure if Wong would take her back.

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    I think Mirai...hmm...I think Mirai needs a change of career. Everyone seems to think her heart really isn't in it, so she should probably stop spending so much money on any coach and use that money to get an education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mskater93 View Post
    It looks as if Evidente is just "all business" which is really something Mirai needs. If I recall correctly, Evidente and Olson kept Mirai from making a fool of herself in KnC at Nationals last year after the LP. I respect that from both of them. Not sure which of the two said "not here" and both dragged her back past the mixed zone to have a meltdown. Evidente is clearly a no nonsense coach, which, by all accounts, is EXACTLY what she needs. IIRC, Wong made a comment about a lack of work ethic regarding Mirai after their split, so I am unsure if Wong would take her back.
    Disagree with you here. Thought Olson was the no nonsense coach last year,she got Mirai out of the K&C in Omaha, and she was trained in the tough Frank Carrol model. Amy appears more as a friend and emotional support than as a strict coach, and also , I suspect, is less expensive than FC or Olson. I don't believe Mirai is getting the same financial support from her family as she received in the past.

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    IIRC, Mirai's problems started when she was still skating under Frank, or shortly thereafter.

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    Mirai did not do well in World's after Vancouver. I heard Frank tell her she was best in world. And she was, but did not believe it. Then body changed, she got profiled as an underrotator by judges, and downhill. Under 6.0 she'd have slews of medals. She was so fabulous in every way at 16. I feel happy she is doing full triples and she was far better than Julia-terrible judging at CoR. Mirai deserved better. She has such quality. I wish her luck at Nationals-her nerves will be tough. She should have moved near Frank, gotten a sports psychologist, but that killer motivation is not in her like Ashley has.

    I was so happy for her skating-great, even without the killer smile. go mirai!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bump View Post
    I think Mirai...hmm...I think Mirai needs a change of career. Everyone seems to think her heart really isn't in it, so she should probably stop spending so much money on any coach and use that money to get an education.
    Ashley used to have troubles with her jumps and she managed to overcome that. Carolina Kostner had a few years when she was seriously underachieving. Even Alissa Czisny was not having the results for a long time until she pulled it up for a few years. If Mirai enjoys what she is doing, I can't see a reason why she should give up. It is her life and she needs to live it as she wants to, so that she doesn't have regrets for the rest of her life. The fact that Mirai doesn't smile during her program doesn't mean that she is not enjoying it; I don't smile either when I skate. If I concentrate on smiling, I don't skate so well because then I don't pay enough attention to me feet. Sometimes one has to concentrate on what they are doing and don't have any energy left to deal with a smile on your face. Just try it at work - do whatever you are doing and keep a huge smile on your face (tiny smile is not visible on the ice). In a short while you may realize that you either lost the smile without even realizing it, or that you still has the smile on but that you are not concentrating as well on whatever you have been doing and that you are suddenly not a very effective worker.

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    Some would critique Mirai for not smiling if she were skating to a funeral dirge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    The fact that Mirai doesn't smile during her program doesn't mean that she is not enjoying it; I don't smile either when I skate. If I concentrate on smiling, I don't skate so well because then I don't pay enough attention to me feet. Sometimes one has to concentrate on what they are doing and don't have any energy left to deal with a smile on your face. Just try it at work - do whatever you are doing and keep a huge smile on your face (tiny smile is not visible on the ice). In a short while you may realize that you either lost the smile without even realizing it, or that you still has the smile on but that you are not concentrating as well on whatever you have been doing and that you are suddenly not a very effective worker.
    Absolutely agree. I actually wonder if the lack of expression is simply the result of a concerted effort on the part of her coaches to have her concentrate and focus more on her programs. Mirai does seem to wear her heart on her sleeve and if she were to get be too emotional or overly expressive, it may be distracting, to the detriment of her executing the technical elements. Her spark when she was younger was quite infectious, but she herself said that it was easy to compete as a 14 year old when you don't have any thoughts, and perhaps the emotions back then didn't really affect her technically.

    At any rate, I was really pleased to see her do so well at Rostelecom Cup. Hope she has the under rotations under control from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victura View Post
    Absolutely agree. I actually wonder if the lack of expression is simply the result of a concerted effort on the part of her coaches to have her concentrate and focus more on her programs. Mirai does seem to wear her heart on her sleeve and if she were to get be too emotional or overly expressive, it may be distracting, to the detriment of her executing the technical elements. Her spark when she was younger was quite infectious, but she herself said that it was easy to compete as a 14 year old when you don't have any thoughts, and perhaps the emotions back then didn't really affect her technically.

    At any rate, I was really pleased to see her do so well at Rostelecom Cup. Hope she has the under rotations under control from now on.
    i, too, was pleased to see mirai look so secure with all of her elements in russia. when she puts it together, she's just a classically great skater, and it's stunning to think that she hasn't been to worlds since 2010. that being said, i don't think the bond number does her any favors though. the exhibition to "on golden pond," OTOH, really plays to all of her strengths--very serious and also expressive.

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    Of course I would like to see Mirai out there smiling and having fun. But I was thinking she's a grown up lady now. Life is serious. She may not have much to smile about now. Skating has become her job, and she has not been doing her job well. Maybe if she can get the jumps consistent she can smile again. Right now it's as if she's playing catch up from being off work.

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    My poor Mirai.

    She could have been one of the best. Thinking about her skate at this past competition which was good but it made me want to watch her short prg from the Olympics again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa2R_HqZnz4

    What could she do when she was just so unlucky to have 2 puberty growth spurts. I thought she was done from changing much at the Olympics.

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    Wow, I didn't think there was anything unusual about them in the kiss and cry. They looked pretty much to me like Orser and Javie did after Javie's SP. It's a horrid time to have a camera in your face anyway regardless of how you skated unless you just laid down the skate of your life. I think Mirai has had injuries, she had a growth spurt, and somewhere along the way she lost her confidence. I don't know her coach at all so can't speak to whether she's good for her or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    Some would critique Mirai for not smiling if she were skating to a funeral dirge.
    THIS!

    Quote Originally Posted by anthologyz View Post
    i, too, was pleased to see mirai look so secure with all of her elements in russia. when she puts it together, she's just a classically great skater, and it's stunning to think that she hasn't been to worlds since 2010. that being said, i don't think the bond number does her any favors though. the exhibition to "on golden pond," OTOH, really plays to all of her strengths--very serious and also expressive.
    ITA with this! I wish Mirai and her coaches/choreographer could see how much better "On Golden Pond" is than what she is skating to at the moment! I actually think her SP music "The Man That I Love" is totally out of character for Mirai. Bond could work but Mirai isn't putting enough expression into it except in the last few minutes.

    I love watching Mirai's Olympic and Worlds SPs and also her LP from 2011 4CCs. She looked like a champion each of those times. I'm going to keep hoping she puts two back to back programs of such quality again. I'll be in her corner until she retires.

    It is unfortunate that Mirai had two separate growth spurts. I thought that by the time she got to the Olympics she was about done growing but it was not to be. She didn't so much grow UP as out after Vancouver - as is normal for many young women. She filled out and it just seems to have affected her jumps again. I just hope that she is used to her new frame by now and will continue to work towards combatting the URs and getting that old Mirai magic back. She said that at NHK 'some people' questioned her committment and she worked hard in Japan before COR. She wanted to prove how committed she is and I think she's taken a step in the right direction by fighting all the way back from 8th in NHK to the podium in COR. I hope she keeps that fire going all the way to Nationals - and beyond.

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