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    I honestly see Mirai moving on to college after this season. If she doesn't make the Olympic or World teams I think it will be clear that it's best to open the next chapter. If she does well at nationals and makes the team she may be motivated to keep skating but again I think she would want to leave the sport with that memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha'sSpins View Post
    I'm assuming that she is no longer with them - I remember she had some kind of sponsorship with Sony (I think). She thanked them on twitter for some goodies they sent to her home but if she had sponsors currently I would think they'd be listed/promoted on her website and twitter account like other sponsored athletes who consistently push their respective sponsor's 'product'.
    Yes, re: b-man I remember the Panasonic series and on some clips it mentioned her parents were only able to make Vancouver to see her because of Panasonic. I haven't heard any other sponsors since which means her financial must be hit hard with less support from USF due to lower rankings; her mum's health issues as well as trying to fund her full time training can't be easy for the family. On top of that, the restaurant industry is notoriously hard working. No sponsors means no money, no skating. I have always consider her more of the 'almost' girl than Ashley, more potential and talented but some how it went all pear shaped.

    I wouldn't mind her seek other avenues how ever she can, Japanese, Chinese sponsors, whatever sponsors just to keep the dream alive. Patrick Chan has received some great support from the Chinese Canadian community too, just do what they can to survive in this expensive sport.

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    Any Mirai updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by os168 View Post
    Yes, re: b-man I remember the Panasonic series and on some clips it mentioned her parents were only able to make Vancouver to see her because of Panasonic. I haven't heard any other sponsors since which means her financial must be hit hard with less support from USF due to lower rankings; her mum's health issues as well as trying to fund her full time training can't be easy for the family. On top of that, the restaurant industry is notoriously hard working. No sponsors means no money, no skating. I have always consider her more of the 'almost' girl than Ashley, more potential and talented but some how it went all pear shaped.

    I wouldn't mind her seek other avenues how ever she can, Japanese, Chinese sponsors, whatever sponsors just to keep the dream alive. Patrick Chan has received some great support from the Chinese Canadian community too, just do what they can to survive in this expensive sport.
    Does anyone have any inside info on how Mirai is doing?! Dying to know....

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    I wonder if Mirai is living on her own or is she living with a host family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    In the U.S., skaters and other athletes do use social media to promote their sponsors.
    Example: Davis and White both send tweets now and then showing that they are enjoying one or more Kellogg's products for breakfast.
    Some tweets and/or Facebook posts show an athlete's promotional efforts for the sponsor's brand, without directly pushing specific products. Example: A few days ago, Nastia Liukin used both platforms to post a photo of herself shooting a commercial for the Subway sandwich chain.
    American athletes also commonly retweet tweets from their sponsors.
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    I have. I've seen such tweets from athletes like Nastia Liukin, Shawn Johnson, Gabrielle Douglas and Ashley Wagner to name just a few.
    I stand corrected then. I didn't realize American athletes had to push their sponsors' products to this degree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadia01 View Post
    I stand corrected then. I didn't realize American athletes had to push their sponsors' products to this degree...
    "Push" is too strong a word, IMHO. I hope that my post above did not give the impression that American skaters use social media for nothing else but plugging their sponsors -- or that their mentions of sponsors are excessive or distasteful in frequency or tone.

    Davis/White, for example, tweet some very uplifting stuff about their volunteer work as Classroom Champs, for which they donate their time to educate and inspire young kids. Nothing to do with any sponsor.
    And they tweet about subjects completely unrelated to skating -- their dogs, their lives as students at U Mich, etc.

    Sporadically, one of them will tweet something related to a sponsor. It so happens that Meryl Davis tweeted about two sponsors today -- but she certainly does not do so every day or every week. (It is only natural that as the Sochi Games fast approach, sponsor-related tweets are showing up in the mix a bit more often.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    I honestly see Mirai moving on to college after this season. If she doesn't make the Olympic or World teams I think it will be clear that it's best to open the next chapter. If she does well at nationals and makes the team she may be motivated to keep skating but again I think she would want to leave the sport with that memory.
    There could be many reasons she might move one. On the other hand she is only twenty, so she would well continue for one more Olympic cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying camel View Post
    I wonder if Mirai is living on her own or is she living with a host family.
    Someone on FSU mentioned that Mirai was being driven to the rink each day by Mura and being taken care of by his family too - again this is second-hand info but it seems the likely case. I'm curious as to whether the U.S. Federation is footing some of the bill/s or if she has found some kind Japanese sponsors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadia01 View Post
    I stand corrected then. I didn't realize American athletes had to push their sponsors' products to this degree...
    They don't 'have' to per se but perhaps some get the message that they should at least a little depending on their contracts per sponsors? Social media is after all the modern way of pushing many products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha'sSpins View Post
    Someone on FSU mentioned that Mirai was being driven to the rink each day by Mura and being taken care of by his family too - again this is second-hand info but it seems the likely case. I'm curious as to whether the U.S. Federation is footing some of the bill/s or if she has found some kind Japanese sponsors?
    I seriously doubt the USFSA is footing any of the bills there. More than likely Mirai has made some connections in Japan and they are helping her out. She's pretty popular over there and has been for a long time...

    Plus, there's always that thought in the back of my head about Mirai's dual citizenship. She has until she turns 22 (I believe) to make her decision about it. When it was brought up back when she first came onto the scene I thought it was stupid to think she'd leave the US to skate for Japan...however, flash forward to now and you can see how it wouldn't be such a far-fetched idea.

    The USFSA doesn't seem interested in Mirai anymore. They are putting all of their attention into supporting Ashley and grooming Gracie and trying to give Agnes a leg up...Mirai is barely an afterthought for them now. Meanwhile in Japan, all of their top ladies are supposedly retiring at the end of the season (Mao, Akiko, and possibly Kanako too). Japan has Miyahara but it's going to take her a few years to rise through the ranks especially with so many of the young Russians already at the forefront. In order to keep themselves in the standing, Japan is going to have to produce another skater. If the JSF is investing in Mirai, it could be a step in encouraging her to skate for Japan. Not sure it will happen but it is a thought...

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    ^ Interesting thought. If Mirai is really motivated to continue and money is her problem and US is not investing in her and Japan wants her...

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    To be fair, Mirai hasn't exactly made a case of further investment/attention by finishing 7th in Nationals in the last two years. Who would you put your resources toward, the skaters who are in the top 6 in the world or the skater who has yet to realize her full potential and hasn't made a world team in three years?

    The attention to Agnes is a bit mystifying toward me...but aside from that I don't think the USFSA's priorities don't seem that far fetched.

    Mirai still has an opportunity to prove herself in the U.S. She has the arsenal to do it. Ashley Wagner seem all but done after finishing 6th at 2011 Nationals and came back to win it all a year later. Mirai can rise to the occasion. If she does two fantastic programs at nationals and make the Olympic team (as she did in 2010) USFSA will take notice.

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    Exactly. Mirai has to show some return to her competitive edge for USFS to invest. She has the ability to do so, but...

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    I'm not exactly sure what all the fuss about Mirai is. I mean, she was cute at the 2010 Olympics and showed some promise. But since then, I've found her skating to be very mediocre and mostly uninspired. Unfortunately, I think part of this attributable to her attitude and her appearance. She doesn't have a particularly striking persona on the ice and, well, her body shape isn't very graceful. Apparently she's funny and interesting off the ice but none of that translates on the ice.

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    I sort of don't get this angst over Mirai either. She did well in Vancouver, but since then... Meh. There are other promising skaters who are actually improving little by little every season.

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    I don't see this vast group of skaters who are improving and shoving Mirai into the background. The US number 3 has been skating senior for 4 years, yet in 12 ISU international appearances has never exceeded a 166 score, was beaten in head to head matches with Mirai in GP's the last 2 years, and is not improving.

    US number 4 is Hicks. She got one shot at a GP this year, scored a 162, way below Mirai's best this year. She has big jumps, but nothing else. Her skating was wild and unrefined when I first saw her as a junior in 2011, and it hasn't improved in 3 years.

    US number 5 is Gao. She has been 5th at Nationals four years in a row. She seems to have an international ceiling of 175, never exceeding that score. I like watching Gao, but I don't see the improvement, and the judges don't either.

    I do see some improvement in Cesario, but she is 20 years old, the same as Mirai. She got a 4th and 5th on the GP's this year, with a season's best slightly below Mirai's season best. She may be on Mirai's level now, but no better.

    I see a lot of impovement in Edmunds and Karen Chen, both who should be forces in the next quad. Chen isn't ready yet. Edmunds is 15 and skated junior internationally. Her SB is 171, four points below Mirai. Edmunds may, or may not, be ready. Nationals will be a good test for her.

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