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    ^ Thanks for the statistics!

    I'd say most dancers are more or less average height (so e.g. Dutch dancers' av. height probably > Japanese dancers).

    Of course male ballet dancers, like ice dancers, should be taller than their female counterparts who they have to lift, so being very short is a disadvantage for a male dancer. In other words: Scott and Tatsuki would have a problem. Likewise, if you are a very tall ballerina, you'd better be a phenomenal solo dancer, because in classical productions you would stand out amidst the corps du ballet like a sore thumb.

    The Balanchine tradition does prefer its women skinny and ethereal looking: long, slender limbs and relatively short torso as well as small head and long neck. But not every ballet company subscribes to that ideal - especially not the ones who do contemporary dance as well as classical ballet.

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    @cruzceleste, thanks for that informative listing. So Tatsuki is even smaller than Nobunari!
    @nimi, thanks for that ballet information. Very enlightening. I think the Dutch must be one of the tallest peoples on earth.

    I think Evan really fits that "gangly with windmill arms" mold. His height notwithstanding, for me Evan just doesn't have that presence on the ice as say Plushenko or Daisuke who both lost to him in the 2010 Olympics.The latter two have this charisma when they skate so you don't really notice how tall or short he is. Tatsuki does not really have that same wattage but on ice he is compelling viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria Victoria View Post
    @cruzceleste, thanks for that informative listing. So Tatsuki is even smaller than Nobunari!
    @nimi, thanks for that ballet information. Very enlightening. I think the Dutch must be one of the tallest peoples on earth.

    I think Evan really fits that "gangly with windmill arms" mold. His height notwithstanding, for me Evan just doesn't have that presence on the ice as say Plushenko or Daisuke who both lost to him in the 2010 Olympics.The latter two have this charisma when they skate so you don't really notice how tall or short he is. Tatsuki does not really have that same wattage but on ice he is compelling viewing.
    I´m not big fan of Evan, actually I kind of dislike his personality and the way he acted towards the sport after Olympic 2010, but he is oh so pretty and tall, he really does stand out with out having the greater presence on ice.

    Just look at the guy https://www.google.com/search?q=evan...ih=741&dpr=0.9

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    ^Tall dark and handsome. Looks good in (with) Vera Wang.

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    Speaking of Evan and windmills: http://morozombie.blogspot.fi/2010/1...krijksdag.html

    @MariaVictoria: Although I appreciate Plushy's competitive nerve and cool confidence, my profound dislike for Mishinesque aesthetics, cheesy poseography and Marton's music prevent me from liking his actual skating. The PCS Plushy got for his Sochi team LP compared to Tatsuki's... AAAARGH!
    But when it comes to Daisuke... He's wonderful even when his jumps are not.

    What I don't like is that people on these boards have described Tatsuki as "poor man's Dai" etc, when the two have quite a different way of expressing themselves. Both are dancers on ice, but Dai has theatrical flair (not to mention theatrical hair!) whereas Tatsuki has a more classical approach and quiet elegance. Both have fire, but it comes out in a different way. Dai on ice is more extroverted and immediate - like you said, he has wattage - but when Tatsuki's on, he certainly skates with fire in his heart and you can see he really feels the music with his whole body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimi View Post
    Speaking of Evan and windmills: http://morozombie.blogspot.fi/2010/1...krijksdag.html

    @MariaVictoria: Although I appreciate Plushy's competitive nerve and cool confidence, my profound dislike for Mishinesque aesthetics, cheesy poseography and Marton's music prevent me from liking his actual skating. The PCS Plushy got for his Sochi team LP compared to Tatsuki's... AAAARGH!
    But when it comes to Daisuke... He's wonderful even when his jumps are not.

    What I don't like is that people on these boards have described Tatsuki as "poor man's Dai" etc, when the two have quite a different way of expressing themselves. Both are dancers on ice, but Dai has theatrical flair (not to mention theatrical hair!) whereas Tatsuki has a more classical approach and quiet elegance. Both have fire, but it comes out in a different way. Dai on ice is more extroverted and immediate - like you said, he has wattage - but when Tatsuki's on, he certainly skates with fire in his heart and you can see he really feels the music with his whole body.
    Couldn't say it myself better Nimi!

    Love that Morozombie blog! I wish he posts more often. I also love the hanyuzuru ("Where's Pooh") Tumblr blog. Both of them are so witty in their own way.

    Re Tatsuki's Team Event LP score, Yuzuru agrees with us: http://mey-mey.tumblr.com/image/76125882561

    As for the great man, it has been said he was scored not so much for what he actually performed out there on Olympic ice but as THE legendary Evgeni Plushenko, but all competitors should have been judged by the same standard.

    That "poor man's Dai" tag is really unfair to Tatsuki because of the inferior connotation and also because as you rightfully pointed out he has his own style from Daisuke. Daisuke's appeal is readily apparent and as you say "immediate," while Tatsuki's need time to grow on you. I'm just glad he's coming into his own at 24, and hopefully the best is yet to come from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meoima View Post
    If I am right, that is the blog of Nikolai Morozov, Dai's coach.
    Huh? The blogger is quite critical of Morozov. See: http://morozombie.blogspot.fi/2012/0...ices.html#more

    @MariaVictoria: Thanks for the link! I totally agree with Yuzu's facial expressions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria Victoria View Post
    Tatsuki's 2014 Nagoya festival exhibition with his Worlds East of Eden SP as encore. Wearing plain long-sleeved white shirt and black pants.

    He really feels the music.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGBAF...layer_embedded
    Wow he was so refine here, nice!

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    So... Yesterday cruzceleste posted in Yuzuru thread (p. 289) a video and pic from 2008 featuring Yuzu and Tatsuki "The Mullet" Machida - oh please don't EVER go back to that hairstyle! - and today I came across a couple of gifs featuring tiny Tatsuki.

    http://magicaleggplant.tumblr.com/po...atsuki-machida

    Kawaii!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria Victoria View Post
    ^Tall dark and handsome. Looks good in (with) Vera Wang.
    LOL

    What I don't like is that people on these boards have described Tatsuki as "poor man's Dai" etc, when the two have quite a different way of expressing themselves. Both are dancers on ice, but Dai has theatrical flair (not to mention theatrical hair!) whereas Tatsuki has a more classical approach and quiet elegance. Both have fire, but it comes out in a different way. Dai on ice is more extroverted and immediate - like you said, he has wattage - but when Tatsuki's on, he certainly skates with fire in his heart and you can see he really feels the music with his whole body.
    I get where are you comming from:
    Dai--- Drama as in theater, acting. not a big fan of the hair
    Machida--- Contemporary dance

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzceleste View Post
    not a big fan of the hair
    *gasps*

    Oh well. I hope we can - at the very least - agree that The Machida Mullet circa 2008 was not a successful aesthetic choice.

    ETA: Does anybody know any nicknames given to Tatsuki by Team Japan members, other than Philosopher?

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    ^ Thanks for the info!

    Given that on these boards we often talk about Yuzu and Dai and Taka and Nobu, it is actually a bit surprising nobody has been calling him Tatsu yet. He deserves a forum nickname, too!

    ...also, I am kinda lazy when I'm typing, so shortened names are nice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimi View Post
    *gasps*

    Oh well. I hope we can - at the very least - agree that The Machida Mullet circa 2008 was not a successful aesthetic choice.

    ETA: Does anybody know any nicknames given to Tatsuki by Team Japan members, other than Philosopher?
    Everytime I see Dai´s hair I think in this image http://www.theanimegallery.com/data/.../tAG_39344.jpg

    I´m sure all the men of Team Japan are gonna look at the hair they have when young and regret it one day (I mean Yuzuru´s Mushroom/Plushenko´s hair, Tatsuki´s mullet...) I think the only one that has keep decent hair all his life (at least as far as I can remember) is Nobunari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzceleste View Post
    Everytime I see Dai´s hair I think in this image http://www.theanimegallery.com/data/.../tAG_39344.jpg


    I´m sure all the men of Team Japan are gonna look at the hair they have when young and regret it one day (I mean Yuzuru´s Mushroom/Plushenko´s hair, Tatsuki´s mullet...)
    Is it all Plushenko influence? Hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzceleste View Post
    I´m sure all the men of Team Japan are gonna look at the hair they have when young and regret it one day
    I'm quite certain that phenomenon is not limited to the men of Team Japan (most people are just lucky enough that their sins of the youth are not kept for posterity by mass media... I know I have some photos I wish wouldn't exist let alone have them spread all over the internet)

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