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Thread: RUMOUR: Carolina Kostner might come back to one of her old programs

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    I really liked Bolero. But I wonder if going back to an old program will really help her scorewise. She is obviously not skating as well as last season, so I doubt the slight decrease in PCS is really due to the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    don't worry folks. She is carolina kostner. She will skate well win it counts. She has like some lucky charm that somehow she will get a medal.
    Esatto. She's on another level. She'll get a deserved Sochi medal, no matter what. So, she might choose the one she loves/"feels" the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miki88 View Post
    I wonder if going back to an old program will really help her scorewise.
    She does not have to worry about scores. After all, a place on the Sochi podium is granted, so why not getting it with something she likes and "feels appropriate"? The judges will... follow on, so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msadot View Post
    She does not have to worry about scores. After all, a place on the Sochi podium is granted, so why not getting it with something she likes?
    Nothing is granted as proven by a 15 year old beating her in COR. If Carolina is falling all over the place it's all over for her medal chances. Plus she needs to up her techical content a 3toe 3toe combo isn't enough compared to the 3flips 3toe or 3lutz 3to many of the girls are doing now. Carolina may have peaked in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msadot View Post
    She does not have to worry about scores. After all, a place on the Sochi podium is granted, so why not getting it with something she likes and "feels appropriate"? The judges will... follow on, so to speak.
    How is it certain that she will medal? It appears her chances are uncertain based on her GP results and also depending on how well the Russian skaters might perform in Sochi.

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    Miki n Jam: yes, Caro will medal. And she DID medal in both CoC and CoR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msadot View Post
    Miki n Jam: yes, Caro will medal. And she DID medal in both CoC and CoR.
    May I borrow your crystal ball? I'd like to know for sure who else will medal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaylee View Post
    I think you make good points. I agree that Scheherazade has better/more transitions and choreography than Bolero, but people seemed to really like Bolero (more than I think it deserved).

    I think Carolina's SP last season was most definitely better than her SP this season, BUT the difference doesn't merit a change. I think Scheherazade doesn't have enough potential to be received better than Bolero, and would prefer for her to go back to her Mozart or Faun FS.
    THIS! I don't like Carolina's new FS and I'd prefer that she go back to Mozart or Faun too!

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    Bolero was nowhere near as good as Mozart and Faun, I'd much rather she went back to one of those. Or the 2012 SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    May I borrow your crystal ball? I'd like to know for sure who else will medal...
    I'd like to know next week's lotto numbers! :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    Bolero was nowhere near as good as Mozart and Faun, I'd much rather she went back to one of those. Or the 2012 SP.
    ITA! I'd swoon with joy if Caro went back to those programs - her best ever imo. I always liked her but I really became a fan with those programs! This season's programs are a big disappointment.

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    She should go back to mozart and last season transylvanian lullaby short, those were masterpieces and olympics worthy and she enjoyed skating them!

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    On Crystal Ball and lotto: can't you seel? Whatever she'll decide will bring her a podium: Bolero, Mozart, Tartini, Humoresque, ... because ALL these brought her medals. So, like I said: she can choose the one she loves the most at this point.

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    I think all of you are raising good points about the programs.
    My personal opinion is that none of the two (sp and lp of the current season) are sochi podium material.

    However, putting myself in her and her team's shoes, changing 2 programs would probably be too much to handle.

    I strongly dislike the humoresque sp, but I believe the biggest disappointment from Lori Nichol is the sherazade lp. If you examine closely the elements amd their order, it is the Bolero program with some variations! It's almost as if she didn't really make any new coreography. Are we sure Lori did the choreo?

    All this being said, for me her top programs are the 2007 sp (pachebel canon) and 2012 lp (mozart)

    Considering her lp options: no world champion would go back to their "glory" program, risking ruining its memory in the fans and skater's mind. I would love if she were to go back to the 2011 (fawn) program, I think it highlighted really well her "airy" quality and speed, much better than the Bolero. However, the safest option considering that we are already in December would be to pick up the latter.
    I am one of those that liked the program overall, mostly for its highlight moments, but believed that it was not displaying Carolina's speed in the proper way.

    Options for the sp: I have the feeling she will keep Humoresque, even if I would prefer kast season's or also Canon. As said above. Does any of you think that changing both programs would send a wrong signal to judges?

    I also wanted to ask: how many skaters went back to their old programs and had a similarly succesful season with them?

    I realized she did that in 2008 (changing back her lp from swan lake to dumsky trio) and it wasn't really successful...

    More thoughts please! I am eager to know what you guys think technically and artistically she should do...more than personal preference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikakiks View Post
    Options for the sp: I have the feeling she will keep Humoresque, even if I would prefer kast season's or also Canon. As said above. Does any of you think that changing both programs would send a wrong signal to judges?

    I also wanted to ask: how many skaters went back to their old programs and had a similarly succesful season with them?
    Shizuka Arakawa in 2005-2006, of course. For the Olympics, she turned her existing FS (Chopin Fantaisie-Impromptu) into her SP, and brought back her Turandot FS.

    Michelle Kwan brought back her 1998 Olympics SP, Rachmaninoff, for the 2002 Olympics. It sort of worked--she won the SP with it, but obviously, ultimately, she lost.

    I don't think that skaters changing programs in an Olympic season is ever seen as a really good sign, but if a program's not working, then best to make the change as soon as possible. Not making the GPF is a good thing for Carolina. She has enough reputation points that she can afford to make a mid-season switch. As long as she shows up at the Olympics in peak shape, she can still be in contention for a medal.

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    I actually LIKE Humoresque. It's a whimsical program and her height works for her because it accentuates the whimsy. She knows exactly how to sell it, but she MUST land those jumps!

    I do NOT like Scheherezade, and I especially do not like that dress. If she is going to go back to an old program, let it be the FS.

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