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Ladies SP - 2013-14 Grand Prix Final

miki88

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This was the best performance of this SP so far this season! You can see everyone standing up at the end to give her a standing O. She certainly deserved it for that performance! :)


Sorry again, that was just a silly post of mine.

The whole underrotated thing heavily relies on us having some form of trust in the technical specialists and the judges in general.

I agree. I find it interesting, depending on the skater, a 'lenient' caller is called out for unfairness, while a 'stricter' caller is deemed to be much fairer. I think the most important thing is not that a caller is lenient or strict but rather consistent with their calls and over the years, I find callers to be far from consistent. Of course, they are human too and the judging can depend on the angle at which they see the jump, but I feel it's a bit naive to wholeheartedly put my trust in callers and judges.
 
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Frenchie said:
btw, did you know that Marie-Reine Le Gougne, often known simply as "the French Judge", even ran for presidency of the french figure skating federation 4 years later, and again 8 years later? She remained president of the Eastern League of the french figure skating federation during all this time. Just saying.

Her co-conspirator, Didier Gailhaguet, having serving his suspension, is the president of the french figure skating federation and is widely expected to succeed Mr. Cinquanta as president of the ISU.
 

Shayuki

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According to the slowmos I saw, the 3A was pretty clearly underrotated.

Ashley Wagner's wasn't as badly but I'd still have downgraded it.
 

Frenchie

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Her co-conspirator, Didier Gailhaguet, having serving his suspension, is the president of the french figure skating federation and is widely expected to succeed Mr. Cinquanta as president of the ISU.

For him being president: I know. :disagree:
For him being expected to become ISU president: I just felt a taste of vomit come up deep in my throat. :jaw:
 

LRK

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For him being president: I know. :disagree:
For him being expected to become ISU president: I just felt a taste of vomit come up deep in my throat. :jaw:

Don't we all?

Were this to come to pass we would speedily - sorry - be mourning the loss of St Cinquanta... (as he would appear in comparison... Remember: things can always get worse. Always.)
 

BounceAround

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Tech callers, judges, and, especially given the rise of skating in Asia, the role history plays in sport(-fandoms) are all interesting topics, but I find that, "The internet is a good echo chamber and a poor debate hall." At the same time, it's great to have a place to talk skating!

For what it's worth...
I thought Mao's skating right after her triple flip was especially lovely. Today she finally had the speed to match the rest of her beautiful basic skating. The purity of her glide is unique.
The beginning of Adelina's program is one of my favorite "moments". I'm also a fan of her "people". They seem very supportive.
I missed the rest of the performances, so I'm not trying to throw shade by excluding the four other skaters.
 

WeakAnkles

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Her co-conspirator, Didier Gailhaguet, having serving his suspension, is the president of the french figure skating federation and is widely expected to succeed Mr. Cinquanta as president of the ISU.

Which is a perfect illustration of everything that is wrong with the ISU. No wonder spectators are abandoning the sport in droves.
 

Srin Odessa

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Her co-conspirator, Didier Gailhaguet, having serving his suspension, is the president of the french figure skating federation and is widely expected to succeed Mr. Cinquanta as president of the ISU.

I, for one, welcome our new French overlords. Instead of ten pages of people complaining about the results, we can just say 'the french judge did it.'
 

seniorita

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This Mao performance is jaw dropping concidering where she was one two years ago, I m so rooting for her Gold in Sochi!!
 

ManyCairns

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Sotnikova's 3-3 looked particularly effortless, didn't it? Very nice.

Agree about the veritable rain of flowers for Mao. A lovely tribute for a lovely skate.

I enjoyed Ashley's program and think she continues to look stronger with it. Spins could continue to be a bit faster but she did look faster than in her previous two events, I thought.
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

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Julia's Flip and Lutz are not that severe
sometimes they are just borderline. enough to make manipulate and make edge calls

Or not make edge calls, like at COR. Also note that three judges actually gave her positive GOE in spite of the flutz, and she essentially scored the base value of the combo (which was well executed, other than the flutz). Her PCS was also sub-30, which is about right. Although I'm sure it'll rise again to 32+ come Sochi.

Solid ladies SP! Great to see so many clean skates!
 

sky_fly20

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Or not make edge calls, like at COR. Also note that three judges actually gave her positive GOE in spite of the flutz, and she essentially scored the base value of the combo (which was well executed, other than the flutz). Her PCS was also sub-30, which is about right. Although I'm sure it'll rise again to 32+ come Sochi.

Solid ladies SP! Great to see so many clean skates!

and her score, her spins were not traveling at all
how did that get a level 3 ? she was underscored

Julia having lower score than the headcase Sotnikova is a joke
 

Li'Kitsu

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sky_fly20 said:
Julia having lower score than the headcase Sotnikova is a joke

Despite me really liking Julias performance today... I like reading this. Sorry I know this is mean, but: yes, the "headcase" is above your favorite. Haha! :biggrin:
 

NMURA

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Lipnitskaya's score is not much different from Skate Canada.
Maybe she is getting a punishment for the bad FS in Russia and her unjustifiable "win".
I bet the Italian judge wanted to revenge on behalf of Kostner, and the American judge could have obvious motives.
 

tulosai

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Despite me really liking Julias performance today... I like reading this. Sorry I know this is mean, but: yes, the "headcase" is above your favorite. Haha! :biggrin:

Honestly, I was never a fan of Sotnikova (though I didn't dislike her either) but more and more I find myself being/becoming a fan, and I really do have to thank skyfly_20 for that in part :laugh: All that nastiness toward her made me want to root for her.
 

Li'Kitsu

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tulosai said:
Honestly, I was never a fan of Sotnikova (though I didn't dislike her either) but more and more I find myself being/becoming a fan, and I really do have to thank skyfly_20 for that in part :laugh: All that nastiness toward her made me want to root for her.

Oh, I like that logic! :biggrin: But hey, that's fair somehow, because this season I really started liking Julia, when I was indifferent about her before. The more people liking both of them, the better :)
 

Mirunna

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and her score, her spins were not traveling at all
how did that get a level 3 ? she was underscored

Julia having lower score than the headcase Sotnikova is a joke

A clean Adelina should always be ahead of Julia simply because currently Adelina is the better skater of the 2.
The judging here has been really good except that stupid and yet expected (from Amano) "<" on Mao's 3A. It's absurd that for her best 3A this season she doesn't get credit but she did for other attempts who were not near as good as this one. 72 for one of the best SP must shut down the critics complaining that Mao is overscored in Japan. She was actually underscored here. Julia for a similar performance would have got 78+ points in Rusia. Julia's score is acurate, 72 she got in Russia was too much.
 

elif

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Lipnitskaya's score is not much different from Skate Canada.

At the Skate Canada she was technically almost perfect. In GPF Julia lost some levels at step and spin. Also Amano gave her ''e'' deduction so she didn't got any GOE for 3Lu+3T. This alone cost her 1.20+0.10=1.30 point. On the positive side she got higher PCS, also got more points for her first spin and flip than Skate Canada. If everything is level4 and perfect, her technical score could be 1.30+0.90=2.20 higher than this. 36.84+2.20=39.04. This is very possible for her.

Radionova's and Wagner's PCS lower than their two GPs. Very interesting.
 
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