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Thread: What is the best strategy for amazing Asada to challenge incredible Kim at the Games?

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    Can we lobby ISU for a tie between Mao and Yu-Na? Pleassssse. That way, everyone can be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambivalent View Post
    Can we lobby ISU for a tie between Mao and Yu-Na? Pleassssse. That way, everyone can be happy.
    Negative. A few in the scientific field are still looking for a way to fuse the two together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambivalent View Post
    Can we lobby ISU for a tie between Mao and Yu-Na? Pleassssse. That way, everyone can be happy.
    No. There's a tie breaker even if you have exactly the same combined points (TES + PCS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by aftertherain View Post
    Negative. A few in the scientific field are still looking for a way to fuse the two together.
    According to a certain skating blogger, when Michelle Kwan split into her two selves, the dark, sensual Salome became Kim and the angel from Lyra Angelica became Asada. Doesn't that mean that in a successful fusion, Kwan will come back for Sochi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    According to a certain skating blogger, when Michelle Kwan split into her two selves, the dark, sensual Salome became Kim and the angel from Lyra Angelica became Asada. Doesn't that mean that in a successful fusion, Kwan will come back for Sochi?
    Damn it, that was supposed to be top secret! I need to have a word with that agent and his partner about leaking classified information ...

    Erm, I mean, certainly not!

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    Well, I just hope all skaters at Sochi will have outings they can be proud of whatever the results. Even if Yu-Na is my favourite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    According to a certain skating blogger, when Michelle Kwan split into her two selves, the dark, sensual Salome became Kim and the angel from Lyra Angelica became Asada. Doesn't that mean that in a successful fusion, Kwan will come back for Sochi?
    Oooh... I would love it! Kwan!

    Look seriously, Kim and Mao are great skaters and different qualities. And yes, Krislite, your analogy above is pretty accurate. May the best skater win on that day.

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    Reading over these discussions of Yuna and Mao, I am a bit amazed that almost four years since Vancouver, this is still the rivalry that dominates the ladies' discipline and will be the focal point of the ladies competition in Sochi. So many (including myself) thought Yuna would retire soon after Vancouver, and that Mao would soon be overshadowed by some prodigies who will dominate the stage in Sochi. Nope. Didn't happen. This may actually have more longevity than Kwan/Slutskaya, assuming they both finish on the Sochi podium.

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    Now that the GPF ladies free skate is over, it seems like the 2 triple Axels in the LP don't work that well for her, but given how stubborn she can be, I think she'll probably keep at it.

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    I hope her team will go back to the original layout with a planned 3flip-3loop because it's alot safer option.

    It's better to do a 3flip-3loop (under-rotated) than do a triple-axel that only counts as sequence, or worse yet, double-axel counted as a sequence.

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    I find Asada's situation with Kim rather similar to Hanyu's situation with Chan. Asada can potentially beat even a clean Kim if she does everything in her programs, due to having higher difficulty. Just like Hanyu can theoretically beat even a clean Chan if he does everything in his programs. However inconsistency with 1 element, the 3A, (or the 4S in Hanyu's case) makes it an unlikelihood. And as mentioned, Mao has yet to skate a clean program with both axels (as Hanyu has yet to do with a 4S and all the fixings). Not out of the realm of possibility but Asada (and Hanyu) will really have to be at literally the peak of their game to be able to upset a clean Kim (or Chan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurrah View Post
    I hope her team will go back to the original layout with a planned 3flip-3loop because it's alot safer option.

    It's better to do a 3flip-3loop (under-rotated) than do a triple-axel that only counts as sequence, or worse yet, double-axel counted as a sequence.
    So would you recommend 1 triple axel and the 3 flip-3 loop combination as opposed to 2 triple axels? How much higher would her base value be than Kim's projected jump layout in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurrah View Post
    Yuna had a lip call at London, so she wasn't perfect, but she was nearly perfect.

    It' seems awfully harsh to think that what looks to be a 'perfect' performance could be deemed not perfect due to under-rotation and edge calls.
    I agree. To me, a performance with lips or flutzes that has everything landed/rotated and no other errors (in spins, footwork, etc.) can be deemed "perfect". Otherwise, one could argue that Michelle Kwan hasn't ever had any perfect skates.

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    The good news for Mao is Kim's LP in Zagreb was actually technically weaker than Mao's very good but imperfect LP at the Grand Prix final. The bad news for her is this was Kim's first outing of the year and she still had the points to have won the Grand Prix final, and will probably have a much easier time improving from where she is now than Mao will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    Reading over these discussions of Yuna and Mao, I am a bit amazed that almost four years since Vancouver, this is still the rivalry that dominates the ladies' discipline and will be the focal point of the ladies competition in Sochi. So many (including myself) thought Yuna would retire soon after Vancouver, and that Mao would soon be overshadowed by some prodigies who will dominate the stage in Sochi. Nope. Didn't happen. This may actually have more longevity than Kwan/Slutskaya, assuming they both finish on the Sochi podium.
    In a way it is exciting to see familiar names at the top, but it is also a bit disappointing. Two years ago, when Adelina debuted as a senior, I fell in love with her skating and was sure she would be part of the gold medal conversation in Sochi. While she may still medal, it's pretty clear that she won't stand atop the podium. Gracie was another whom I thought would have vastly improved her artistry and kept her jumps in the last two years. Neither has happened.

    What I do hope is that if Mao and Yuna skate in Sochi like they did this weekend and another top contender has the skaters of her life, the judges don't put the top two out of reach on PCS alone. Yuna and Mao getting 70+ in PCS for very uninspired LP performances will make it hard for them to be caught if the others can only get 66 for perfect programs.

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