Weaver & Poje and Capellini & Lanotte cheer thread
About a year ago I made the bold prediction that Weaver & Poje would medal at the Sochi Olympics and win their first world medal, which most laughed at the time. Unfortunately the Olympic one didnt come close to coming to pass due to a very poor SD performance by W&P which crushed their medal hopes in Sochi, but they sure came through at worlds with a silver medal which nobody was predicting (I wasnt even either at that point) even with V&M and D&W out. Only 0.02 away from the gold too. Hopefully this is the start of them finally getting the recognition from the judges they have long deserved. Personally I thought they should have won but oh well, there will be other chances for sure. The key was finally having a really good SD which they have struggled with mightily all season long (except Skate Canada). It is clear they will be contenders for gold in the coming years, since even if I&K stay together and become the team to beat they are not infallible to big mistakes as they showed again here.
Cappellini & Lanotte have been the surprise team of the season. European gold was a big surprise to many. World gold though was something nobody imagined. The talk before worlds was maybe an outside shot at the bronze, since B&S, I&K, W&P, and P&B were all still talked about as stronger contenders than them. I know some dont agree with their win and think it should have gone to P&B or W&P, but it was a very close contest and could have gone to either of the three (not a blatantly ridiculous and impossible to justify result like the Olympic ladies for instance) so the judges decision should still be respected and they are the World Champions. It will be interesting to see if they continue. It has been a long journey to the top for them, but they are young enough to possibly keep going and in the open field will still be contenders.
You & I have had our fights Pangtongfan but I'm happy you made this thread.
I love both of these couples. Such beauty in everything they do.
I think they came through in the same season (06/07) so they have competed together for quite a while.
C/L had an amazing SD this season. I've loved watching them skate to it & their FD has many lovely qualities.
W/P have such wonderful soft touches in their skating. They melt into the ice. You forget they are on skates.
It's really exciting to see other couples get their chance to shine now V/M & D/W have gone.
The next four years I think will be very open for ice dance.
B/S could come back stronger & maybe (praying & hoping) I/K might have second thoughts & stay together.
C/B have really improved too.
Does anyone know if C/L will continue to compete next season ?.
If W/P do then C/L should. It could be the next great rivalry.
I couldnt see C&L retiring yet. They did say in interviews all year they planned on going on past this season, so I dont think the world title would change that. If anything it would give them more reason to believe they could win some more medals, and see how long they can stay up near the top with the younger teams coming up. Some say it will be hard to defend their title, but really I see it as them still having nothing to lose. Nobody thought they would be in this position anyway, and no matter what happens they will always be the 2014 World and European Champions. What do they have to lose, if they dont defend their title next year it wont be a surprise really, or take away from their achievements this year. They probably want to see what else they can accomplish.
I imagine for them it would be more year by year, and 2018 would be a we will see thing. W&P are more likely to be dead set on the 2018 Games IMO.
There is talk now the I&K split was a false rumor and hopefully it is. That will make the event even more exciting moving forward.
Chock & Bates also seem to be on the way up and looking to push for the podium soon, and behind them there are the other young Canadian and American teams.
Bobrova & Soloviev might need to take leave Zhulin if they are going to make it back up. He did a good job getting them to a higher level in 2013, but they seem to need something else now. They also need someone to fix her posture and their general sloppiness in execution, extension, leg lines. If they can work on their weaknesses I could see them being medal contenders again, but otherwise probably not.
I love W/P an am thrilled that they won their first world medal!
Also C/L were the cleanest and maybe shafted a few times so I'm thrilled to see them win too (not a huge fan of their programs this year though).
But let's be real here: your prediction would have only been bold only if D/W and V/M were competing. Had they competed, W/P would have placed 4th. Not to diminish their medal, but the moment D/W and V/M announced skipping Worlds, anyone with half a brain could have predicted W/P to medal - they were 5th in Sochi... Subtract the top 2 teams and assume a better SD than Sochi and a medal was practically a given.
Had you predicted C/L to medal let alone win, *that* would have been a bold prediction.
You two argue like an old married couple.
On topic, well done to both W/P and C/L!
Both teams have so many options (program wise) to choose from.
C/L have done a lot of opera programs so I would like to see them try something a little different.
W/P have a wonderful exhibition program this season, so I would love to see them try something like that.
These two couples are so easy on the eye.
Even with so many technical elements to do their programs never look awkward. So talented.
Actually most people were not predicting a medal for W/P before Worlds. In fact neither C/L or W/P were being predicted to medal with a I/K, B/S, and P/B podium (in some order) the practical defacto podium of anyone. And nobody was predicting W/P to finish above P/B and I/K (in fact I wasnt either, my prediction from last March was based around my thinking they could beat teams like P/B and I/K back then which most didnt agree with even then, but like most I no longer believe d that would happen just before worlds). Granted B/S pulled out, so there is no way of telling how they would have done.
Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy
Yeah, and with B/S pulling out, C/L and W/P were essentially shoeins for bronze.
My predictions were: I/K, P/B, W/P. Which as you say was your prediction, too.
Some might have picked C/L over W/P ... they were in a virtual tie in Sochi for 6th and 7th, splitting the segments and less than half a point apart.. and then B/S, V/M, and D/W all pulled out, so you most definitely weren't the only one to predict W/P medaling when probably half went with them and then half went with C/L.
My prediction was in fact wrong in that C/L beat W/P but instead of C/L pushing them off the podium, P/B erred (and were arguably underscored) and I/K messed up in their SD to take them out of the medals. Through a variety of circumstances - including solid skates - W/P won silver...
I am not even referring to my predictions pre worlds, but my predictions last spring. People were writing W&P even after their gutsy 5th place at worlds saying the 4 teams who beat them at worlds, P&B, I&K, Chock & Bates (who remember beat them easily at the WTT), would all be ahead of them. They were ahead of I&K, C&B, and C&L on the grand prix, and ahead of P&B, I&K, and C&B at worlds, so all year (other than perhaps the Olympics due to their very poor SD skate there) they surpassed the predictions of some they were a team on the way down and out of contention. It could have been predicted by anyone even last spring btw that V&M and D&W were probably never skating at worlds. Teams that are obviously retiring usually dont. In fact it was a surprise P&B did.
B&S likely would have finished below even had they skated btw. They have lost to P&B easily all year, even when P&B skated no better than they did at worlds. They arent in mother Russia anymore, and even in Russia they lost to W&P not even skating in the last flight in the FD, and only came 5th due to poor SD performances of C&L and especialy W&P. Their skating isnt strong this year, but fortunately for them 2 of the 3 major events they were able to skate and face top flight opposition were in Russia.
You said yourself, you thought W/P would win over I/K and P/B and thus win bronze to D/W and V/M - at the GPF and Worlds. Once the season progressed and I/K, B/S and P/B bested W/P at the Olympics (C/L, too) you most definitely changed your tune.
If V/M, D/W, and B/S had been slated to compete, there's no way you would have stood by your original prediction of W/P winning a World medal. But once they had a 50/50 shot at bronze against C/L, obviously your earlier prediction held true by virtue of withdrawals.
You were wrong about W/P winning their first GP, winning bronze at the GPF and winning bronze in Sochi, and lucked out that there were enough withdrawals for W/P to win a medal at Worlds. Hardly "bold" of you.
Quit pretending this love fest isn't also a pathetic attempt to pat yourself on the back for a prediction that half the people here probably could have made (and probably did make) after noting the Worlds withdrawals.
Congrats to both teams! They're two great teams and a world medal is definitely well-deserved. I loved both of their FDs this year.
An interesting article on the dance event:
I feel sorry for Natalie when I see how she looks on the podium.
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Anna's reaction to the score has no price I still have thrills!
This was my dream podium, my three favourite couples together maybe not in the right positions if we think about the potential but it was ok considering the WHOLE competition
I guess that makes it official this time.
Péchalat and Bourzat confirmed their retirement in the press conference. "No way!" was Pechalat's response to a question about them perhaps staying on for another year.
Gotta Have Music
While I was hoping for Nathalie & Fabian to win, I was thrilled for Anna & Luca (whom I've always liked), and Weaver & Poje were wonderful, too. Very pleased with the podium! The results were pretty close for all three teams.