I wish you guys would have mercy on the poor overworked moderators who have to go through this thread and delete all the off-topic stuff.
Anyway, Elizaveta T. is a delight and I hope she regains her competitive edge soon.
Parallel to the GPF, let's just say her Free Skate on the same weekend was a lot cleaner than some of the ladies at GPF, despite her injuries.
on the contrary even to my disliked skaters I never wish for any injury to anyone
also a National inflated event is not counted
nervous for what ?
why not accept it, just as US has no chance in Pairs medal, Russian men, Japanese Couples, Chinese Ladies
is it that hard to accept no Canadian Ladies will medal ?
also this thread was about Tuk
not sure why age falsification was brought up
Liza was much tinier than Julia from ages 10-15 but now she has grown up too. Everybody does. I ve been watching Julia since she was 10 years old, and was skating to Kung Fu Panda (so yes she couldnt have been 5 then) and now she is a pretty normal 15 year old girl. She will probably go through some more changes but nobody knows, there were skaters who passed through puberty with less problems.
And it is wiser to stay on topic.
and to say Julia looks like a 10-12 year old is baffling, look at her in GPF Banquet she is almost as tall a Mao now
I've never been to a pediatrician's office in Russia but I'm willing to bet that you'll see more than a few 15-year olds that look like Julia. People have different genetics, different diets, different lifestyle habits, different onset of puberty, etc. etc. You can't tell someone's age by what they look like unless you have a built-in bone age scanner and even then, bone age isn't universally accurate. If you don't think official documents are trustworthy because they can be falsified, then you've basically closed the debate. You're not just suspicious, you're suspicious /and/ you won't be satisfied by any attempts to "prove" Julia's innocence.
I feel like if Julia does end up winning a medal, some people will inevitably raise a ruckus about her age, because it's a sure way to taint her accomplishment. If she's guilty, she's guilty, if she's innocent, she's still guilty! Because she's from Russia and therefore all official documents are bogus I'm not sure why a country's track record is relevant. Does this mean track and field fans don't take American wins seriously anymore, since they have such a fabulous history with doping?
Also, growing up doesn't always spell doom for a skater. For example, Gracie, Anna, and Polina Edmunds were decent skaters as little kids but accomplished their best achievements to date DURING prime growing years. And some skaters reach their peak in their 20s even - Rochette, Wagner, Czisny, Marchei, Korpi, Lepisto, etc. Julia won't keep her 15 year old body for forever, but the changes she experiences in the future could be quite slight or rather significant, as could the effects (negative or positive) they have on her skating. We'll just have to wait and see. But the rumors of her being underage and Russia trying to sneak her into the Olympics illegally is silly.
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I truly doubt Julia is lying about her age. Russia would have had to plan this a long time ago and it is only recently that she has become a standout skater. The country already had plenty of promising up-and-comers and it was only in the last few months that Julia has surpassed them all. There are tiny 15 years olds; she is no bigger than Tara or Sasha at that age. However, I do think if she grows wider she will have to alter her jump technique substantially to be able to rotate her triples.